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        12-10-2008, 04:05 PM
      #21
    Yearling
    My question is were are the parents in this situation. Im assuming this girl came from a family that doesnt know a whole lot about horses. The whole time that I was in 4H and my mother was the leader and my mom also was giving most of the kids lessons on the side..but she always made the parents stick around and watch. No "babysitting" was ever done by the horse or my mom. Most kids that age have that "i know all" attitude. I grew up in a horse family and hell...i had that attitude as well. This girl should NOT be left alone with any horse...specially if she has a background were she is in need of some one like your mom. I recomend you just keep an extra eye on her. Spend more time with her and if she has that "knwo it all" attitude get a hold of her parents. Its not worth wasting your or the horses time if she isnt into it!
         
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        12-10-2008, 08:44 PM
      #22
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ponypal    
    but this girl when she is in a bad mood, SHE IS FURIOUSE. I have seen her many times try to injure the horse (though you really can't like punch a horse and it severly injure them!!) and I have been concered for a while about that. I and really just worried about her. If she keeps acting like this then she will get hurt.
    Ok, no matter what she went through she has NO RIGHT to hit a horse for any reason like that!!! That is asking for trouble. She should not be beating horses! You have to put an immediate stop to that and really talk to her parents. She cannot use violence against animals. That only escalates. If she has those issues they should get her some help. I know I sound harsh, but really I just don't want to see this turn into something really bad.
         
        12-10-2008, 09:19 PM
      #23
    Weanling
    I agree with you Kiara. She needs to get some help and I didnt know she was hitting the horses. Even if it doesnt hurt when she hits the horse what if she decides to use something else that can injure a horse. Until she learns the responsibility she needs to sit out for a while and maybe when she sits out for a while if she is supervised the whole time she can ride for a little bit. Its just not fair to the horse to have to be treated like that.

    Is this her horse or someone elses???
         
        12-10-2008, 11:35 PM
      #24
    Weanling
    I would think that if the girl is there because she wants to be and because she loves horses that she would want to do those things. I know when I was that age I would groom a horse for hours before and after just so I could stay around them longer lol! Is this something that someone else thinks she should do and she just isn't into it? If so, that's still no excuse for her abusing any of the horses, but the adults need to step in right away and find a differnt activity for her.
         
        12-11-2008, 05:49 PM
      #25
    Foal
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    Well today I saw her using the hoofpic to I don't know what she was trying to do but she was limke digging it into the horse!!!!!!!!! So at that point I needed to just get her out of there as fast as she had come. I warned her that if she did this again, she wouldnt get to ride or maybe, depending on what the barn manager says never come back again. So at this point I guess my threat angered her, SHE CAME AT ME!!!! With the hoof pick. I was a little worried and so was my friend. I asked my friend to get the manager and she came to help. SHE said that if she EVER!!! Tried to injure a horse or a person then she will be banned from the barn (as she put it) AND thank goodness she doesnt own a horse. Not to be mean or anything. The manager did talk to the mother and the father with me and she was kind of well shocked!!! I don't see why! I will see how she is tommorrow. She is still coming but she got a double warning!!!
         
        12-11-2008, 06:00 PM
      #26
    Yearling
    If she came at you she should not be aloud at that barn! I don't understand why she is getting so many chances if she is a crazy little girl!!!!! Boot her out!!!
         
        12-11-2008, 06:18 PM
      #27
    Weanling
    Nicole, I do agree, to a point.

    I also think that this girl has many issues that are probably always dealt with this way. She does something wrong, and is just booted out. Her aggression is a symptom, not the problem.

    If she was a horse she wouldn't be thrown out for bad behavior, at least not so easily.
         
        12-11-2008, 07:29 PM
      #28
    Started
    Not to sound rude here, but digging a hoof pick into a horse and than coming after a someone with it is a little bit more than "bad behavior". Confronting her and giving her another chance was a very nice thing to do, in my opinion it would have been justified booting her out then and there.
         
        12-11-2008, 08:00 PM
      #29
    Weanling
    Don't get me wrong. I wouldn't let her near a horse without first working through some problems. She obviously has a big issue and I bet it is always dealt with by being thrown out, or dismissed.
         
        12-11-2008, 08:31 PM
      #30
    Foal
    She may very well have parents that let her get away with things just because she uses such aggresion and so she thinks that anyone telling her no she can treat the same. This is how she was taught by her parents to get her way! You can tell by the way her mom just blows off the mentors concerns by using excuses instead of giving the daughter a consequence for her actions. I see this all the time parents are to afraid of punishing the kids because the word punishment is so hard, I always use the word consequence to get the parents to see the light. And kids will understand this when you are consistent. These parents are using the mentors as a babysitter, I am a mother of an almost 8yr old, he has been around horses and riding them since he was 3 and I would never let him out of my sight while around any horse!!
    Even if she has some kind of disorder like ADHD (or any other like some form of Autism) which alot of kids with this can fly off the handle at the blink of an eye, if she had consistent parenting... meaning rewards and consequences then neither the B/O or mentor would have to be keeping an eye on her ( her parents would be the ones responsible for that)
    JMO, I have an older child with ADHD and slight autism so these behaviors are not new to me but have become alot less frequent with hands on parenting.
         

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