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post #21 of 64 Old 11-22-2012, 04:11 PM
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Personally, I think that both Hunters and Jumpers can be equally as hard as one another, I have competed in higher levels of both.

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Also, is it true that hunters generally have a more arched back because I wasn't sure on that.
Everyone has their own way of riding... In my picture my back is flat. I know many Hunter coaches teach having a arched back, when I was little that's all I was taught "arch your back, arch your back".... terrible for your body, I am 20 and have to go to the chiropractors twice a week because of that.... After that "arch your back" phase, I began riding Dressage to help my Hunter/Jumper foundation, and no you don't need a arched back. But again, I notice a lot of coaches train it, but I think it is improper.

There is a difference between sitting tall and arching your back.... Arching your back causes you to "hover" foward in your seat, versus sitting tall and using your seat bones.
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post #22 of 64 Old 11-22-2012, 04:16 PM Thread Starter
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Oh ok, I was just wondering because my back is naturally more arched lol so I was wondering if that would be a problem for hunters or not. Also, even when I do straighten my back it still looks like I have an arch because my butt is big lol. So I was jw thanx!! And do you know any good hunter books, or horsemanship books, pretty much any horse type book. Thanx again!!

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post #23 of 64 Old 11-22-2012, 04:21 PM
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My 2 favorite books are Geoff Teall: Riding Hunters, Jumpers and Equitation & Hunter Seat Equitation by George Morris, and also one for jumping exercises to keep your horse from getting bored 101 Jumping Exercises by Linda Allen

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Ok thanx!!! Btw I accepted your friend request!!
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post #25 of 64 Old 11-22-2012, 06:04 PM Thread Starter
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Oh and is it also true that you can't use a square saddle pad or half pad? And will they allow bell boots?

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post #26 of 64 Old 11-22-2012, 06:08 PM
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In Hunters you can use a square pad for beginners, most people show in Sheepskin Numnah, that's the prefered look. In Hunters - no bell boots/jumping boots, polo wraps, etc..

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Oh well if you use a numnah, can you still use a half pad? Also(sorry I'm full of ?s), this is rather irrelevant to my initial post,if I do do hunters and my horse oversteps so I use bell boots(he gets four shoes), since I can't use boots in the hunter ring, would it be smart/easier to just have him get back shoes? That way when he oversteps he doesn't throw a shoe? That is my only concern about hunters with him. I don't want to use bell boots schooling and in the show ring not use them and have him pull his front shoes offnor cut his fetlock. So should I just pay for back shoes?

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post #28 of 64 Old 11-22-2012, 08:03 PM
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Ooh, I had a lecture on this last month :p

Hunters:
Conservative
Lower, natural looking jumps
Based on Judges opinion (and a scale)
Red coats are only for Master of Hounds (manager of show I think? Lol)
Plain horses
Slower horses with good form (both horse and rider)
Originated from English Foxhunting

You want a horse that has a good, even "step" that jumps correctly with proper form. You want the horse to look effortless to ride, like the rider is just sitting there enjoying the round. The horse should have a big, even stride, but not too "flashy" as far as movement goes. The horse should have a free shoulder and hind end on the flat, engaged through the back and carry its head a bit on the lower side. He should accept the bit and other aids without complaint. He should have an even stride and [appear to] find the base of the fence himself. He should have even knees and a good bascule over the fence. The horse should change his leads automatically over or directly after the fence.

The course is generally straightforward with "easy" lines and set distances. The aim of the game is to make the round look like it's a pleasure to ride around. The horse should get proper striding without getting too deep or too far back from the base of the fence.

Attire is conservative and appearance DOES matter.



Jumpers:
Not quite as conservative
Flashy horses
Timed only, judge doesn't matter
Red Coats only for international teams
Higher, unnatural jumps (such as bright and flowery/3D)
Fast, big strided horses
Originated from Steeplechase

"Flashy" horses is not correct - good jumpers come in all shapes, sizes, and degrees of "flashiness" - some horses are downright ... uh... ugly... and can jump the moon.
Red coats, I believe, are for those that have "earned" them in some fashion, but I can't recall how...
Fast and big strided, not necessarily - clean, quick, agile horses are important.


And..of I can find my binder I can write the whole list down, these are the main points I remember.
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@justdressageit haha I was hoping you would show up! :)

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post #30 of 64 Old 11-22-2012, 08:57 PM
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I have been told a red coat is earned by being on a fox hunt-the fox is killed & the "neophyte" riders get the blood rubbed on them-maybe on a cheek? Not sure, but then they can wear a Red Coat.
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