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  • How many riders have died showjumping?

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    11-07-2011, 01:41 PM
  #21
Trained
In most people they don't have many symptoms before a heartattack so I would imagine that it would be much harder in a horse. I am sure that a horse like the one that died yesterday have the very best medical care available to any animal (humans included). The owners of the horse lost hundreds of thousands of dollars if not millions when that horse tipped over in the ring. People that own horses like that don't only view them as investments and they would do the best for the horse regardless but nobody in thier right mind would risk a horse that could have made millions as a sire if they had to retire him early.
     
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    11-07-2011, 01:45 PM
  #22
Trained
I read an article a while back (it was fairly old) about the veterinary support that went with the US team to Beijing. And oh my! I wish I could afford that kind of care for myself and my family. It was the best of the best (in my completely uneducated view). I have to believe Hickstead had that all along in his amazing career.
     
    11-07-2011, 01:56 PM
  #23
Weanling
Eric and Hickstead's story would be a great novel. The man who struggled with his professional and personal life being matched up to a horse that was considered unrideable in many circles. They met, and they succeeded and I believe had it not been for the incredible lack of understanding Eric had with this horse, Hickstead may never have become the world class show jumper he was.
As with any athlete, there comes risk with age and I believe Hickstead loved his job, loved his rider, and died doing his job...with great dignity. It doesnt matter how much some would like to make this into something it isnt, the horse was not ready to retire, he loved his job too much.
I have watched many videos of these two, and if there is one thing I can say for certain, Eric wanted what was best for that horse, and the gentle tap he gave Hickstead on his forehead in the end was no more that Eric saying..."Get up my friend, don't give up on me."
The Royal will be filled with tears as they salute Hickstead on opening nite. Wish I was going this year.
     
    11-07-2011, 02:11 PM
  #24
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Originally Posted by Buckcherry    
I have a question, Do these owner think to have these horses checked for any medical problems before each competition. I would think and hope that being a responsible horse owner they would and hopefully if it was something evident that this could have been prevented. Usually there are some sort of signs of a heart attack before it happens.
I understand what you are asking and, yes, horses at that level are checked often for their health. But I have to ask you, do you get checked by a doctor every time you jog, or go bowling, or play golf? Many times the only way a human knows that they have coronary artery disease or any other heart trouble is when they have an acute attack....some of those fatal. I doubt that if they had any knowledge that Hickstead had a heart problem that they would have kept jumping him. He could make almost as much money standing in his paddock breeding.
     
    11-07-2011, 02:13 PM
  #25
Trained
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Originally Posted by Jake and Dai    
Off topic but...bsms...do you recall the title of that book? I've read all of Dick Francis' mystery novels multiple times (love him) but don't think I've read any of his non-fiction work. I'm about to head off on a business trip and need to load up my Kindle.

:)
http://www.amazon.com/Sport-Queens-Autobiography-Dick-Francis/dp/0330339028/ref=ntt_at_ep_dpt_10

It is a collection of a series of articles he wrote after he stopped riding. It is a bit uneven, but I really enjoyed it.
     
    11-07-2011, 02:45 PM
  #26
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Originally Posted by Annnie31    
Eric and Hickstead's story would be a great novel. The man who struggled with his professional and personal life being matched up to a horse that was considered unrideable in many circles. They met, and they succeeded and I believe had it not been for the incredible lack of understanding Eric had with this horse, Hickstead may never have become the world class show jumper he was.
It makes one wonder what great horses (past and present) that never were because they weren't paired with the right rider, trainer, owner, etc.
     
    11-07-2011, 03:06 PM
  #27
Trained
Thanks bsms.

**runs off to Amazon**
     
    11-07-2011, 03:14 PM
  #28
Banned
This is not as simple as going for a jog or going bowling this it hard competition which horses were not really made for. Yes certain breeds excell at the sport but jumping is not a natural thing for horses. Just like racing long distances and starting them at the age of 2 isn't nautral. People need to consider the horses health over all, especially if they want their horse to live a long and happy life.

Its not just about winning money and competing, owners and riders need to take into consideration their horse health and it should be a bigger issue than it is. And yes if I competed my horse that seriously I would have him vet checked before and after each show. I think a responsible horse owner should, if they cared more about their horse and less about how much money they are winning.

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The owners of the horse lost hundreds of thousands of dollars if not millions when that horse tipped over in the ring
This is what I'm saying, people think to much about the money and not enough about the actual horse and it's well being. IMO
     
    11-07-2011, 03:24 PM
  #29
Trained
What I'm saying is that the two are often the same thing as they were in this case. If I own a $250,000 Ferrari I'm not going to miss too many oil changes or take it to some half-assed shade tree mechanic. I'm going to make sure that whoever works on the car is the best money can hire. The same goes for a horse like this.

There is FAR more abuse in the local shows than there is at the high levels. There are far more backyard pets that are crippled or dead at 15 than there are high level jumpers or eventers or rope horses or cutters because they don't get the medical care or the hoof care or the exercise and training that these athletes do. If you don't wan tot compete in this type of activity then don't. Most of us wouldn't get there anyway.
     
    11-07-2011, 03:49 PM
  #30
Yearling
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Originally Posted by Buckcherry    
This is not as simple as going for a jog or going bowling this it hard competition which horses were not really made for. Yes certain breeds excell at the sport but jumping is not a natural thing for horses. Just like racing long distances and starting them at the age of 2 isn't nautral. People need to consider the horses health over all, especially if they want their horse to live a long and happy life.
Horses were "not really made for" riding, but I imagine you ride them. If you don't have evidence that more Grand Prix showjumpers break down or fall over dead from sudden heart failure than backyard, amateur horses, I'd be interested in seeing it. But I bet you don't, because as Kevin says, those GP horses are treated far better and receive far superior care, veterinary and otherwise, than your average backyard nag.
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