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        04-09-2010, 08:46 PM
      #11
    Trained
    Well sounds like you're off to a good start riding a few ponies. But when you add another 100 or so horses from crazy ponies, to breakers, to ottbs, to warmbloods... THEN you can start to call yourself experienced enough to consider a professional career. You can't expect to get paid for riding ponies at 8 years old, you do not 'train' as an 8 year old you're only just learning how to stay on. The most I've been paid to ride a horse for someone is $20 a ride, and I got that horse from straight ott to training elementary and some medium dressage movements, competed etc.
    Also, you may be able to stick on these horses, but can you actually get them working correctly, engaged, through etc.? Or take a lunatic ottb from nothing to an experienced showjumper?

    There are so many factors to take into consideration. Also be aware that it means LONG hours, try getting up at 5am and working through to 6pm 6 days a week, on next to no pay.
    As a kid, you should be focussing on doing well at school, getting a job so that you can pay to get a more advanced horse when you're ready, and then getting into university or a well paying profession so you can build up your money. You're going to want a VERY well paying job and unfortunately this does not come from doing odd jobs around horses.
         
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        04-09-2010, 11:41 PM
      #12
    Foal
    I have a job working on saturdays, sundays, tuesdays, thursdays, and fridays at my barn. It doesnt pay anything. And what I was talking about at 8 wasnt to get paid lol. Sorry for the misunderstanding. I was just saying that I started schooling ponies at age 8. Haha I would never expect someone to payy me for that at that young of an age. It was just doing baby cross rails on little ponies who took off with other riders. And where could I find opportunities to ride different arrays of horses such as the ones listed about? I have ridden a few but not NEARLY as much as I need to. We don't have many crazy horses at our barn, and if we do its because they are completely unridable by anyone.
         
        04-10-2010, 02:35 AM
      #13
    Yearling
    A lot of good advice. Speaking as an underdog I know where your coming from, sorta, im old so its eaiser with getting a paying job.
    Kayty said to study hard, go to a univesity so you can get a high paying job. That's so true! Your focus should be on school first and finishing that so you can get into a good college, one with an awesome riding program maybe? If you have good grades, GPA and active do more horse things,camps,volunteer..ect. You can apply for student grants, loans to afford those great colleges. No one told me that I could get grants or even think of being able to afford student loans because of that I always thought college was out of reach. Even if a huge college isnt your dream, still consider going to a community college at least to get a degree in bussiness or something of interest that will help you form a good solid backup plan for bringing in that money if you can't land that dream team with training or going to the olypmics with sponors.

    Knowledge is key to unlocking life. If you REALLY want it and can't think of anything els in the world to do other then working with horses. Start indulging in the studies of horses. Try and learn as much as you can now and never stop studying until you die! :P no im just kinda kidding, lol. Like the rest have said experiance! Try and get as much as you can, soak it all up! Also don't be afraid to be yourself! Don't worry about what the other people at your barn think of you, unless your being mean then that's not going to get you anywhere. But don't be afraid to get out of your comfort zone and push your self to those next limits cause your going to have to!

    Have you told your trainer how far you want to go and your dreams, yet? I told mine that I wanted to be a horse trainer she didnt support that but I got over it and still going to go through with my goals. As of this day she's not my trainer don't let those people bring you down. Theres always another road to take you might have to jump over a log to get to the right one, but isnt it worth it? What are "barn bucks"? Does that go toward lessons or your lease? Is there anyway you can become a groom or stall cleaner or something to afford those extra lessons? Heck, you never know if you tell your trainer you dream and prove to her that you WANT it. She might take you under her wing and maybe you could apprentice for her down the line. You never know of the opportunities untill you start seeking them.
    Oh god, this is another long post sorry I've been in a very inspirational mood tonight plus I've got to much energy from coffee makes it easier to type a lot!
         
        04-10-2010, 07:00 AM
      #14
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by IllComeALopin    
    I'll be honest with you, there was a time when I sounded just like you. An Underdog, I was ready to show people what I was made of and I wanted nothing else but to show, show, show and get myself out there. I wanted to show western pleasure mostly at Quarter Horse shows and when I took the trip to Congress in Ohio I was even more gun ho to get myself there...


    THEN... I worked at two different barns, cleaning stalls, that took horses to Worlds and Congress. The horses were mostly shown in Western Pleasure, Hunter Under Saddle, and/or Showmanship or Halter. There was not ONE horse in either barn that I would have wanted... not one. They cribbed and weaved, they kicked, they bit. They were hardly ever turned out and spent most of the time wrapped up in wraps and blankets in a stall. The ground manners SUCKED to say the least, they would run past you, buck, and rear on the ground... and the horses were all together unhappy compared to the Local shown, 4h'ers, and trail horses I was riding and training in the past...

    ...but they did win pretty consistantly...

    I think at small barns things are more than likely different, but this is what I saw. Take it with a grain of salt.

    I would never go back. I'll keep my local showing, 4h, trail riding, happy all around horses instead (and even some 4h people take it to far!).

    When money gets involved its no longer a passion its job and you do what you have too in order to eat and put money in your pocket to survive... I never want to get like that, ever.

    I agree with this for myself, but have never worked in a show barn. That being said...

    -OP- there is a movie where the dad says to the son "Don't let anyone, even me, ever get in the way of your dreams"..... Build a plan- literally write it down so you have guidelines when you are down or when you want to give up. I encourage you to whole heartedly follow your dreams. YOU can do it!
         
        04-10-2010, 07:25 AM
      #15
    Trained
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Citrus    
    I agree with this for myself, but have never worked in a show barn. That being said...

    -OP- there is a movie where the dad says to the son "Don't let anyone, even me, ever get in the way of your dreams"..... Build a plan- literally write it down so you have guidelines when you are down or when you want to give up. I encourage you to whole heartedly follow your dreams. YOU can do it!
    Yup

    Do it in small chunks. Things appear so much harder when you look at them as a whole. Looking at my major uni assignment right now, and as a whole, there is a HELL of a lot to do, I feel stressed, rushed and panicked, 4000 words in 2 weeks with tables, diagrams and charts. However, using my normal technique of breaking it down into bite sized chunks, I can get the job done with the stress level.

    Write down your specific goal. What discipline do you want to specialise in? Do you want to be a professional horse trainer, rider trainer or competition rider?
    Then work back from there, the steps that are needed to get you to that point. So the first one may be perfectly your own riding goals. You say you always look down, so the first may be LOOK UP. Focus on your position, once you perfect your position then start the next goal, maybe working on collection, getting a perfect form over a fence, etc. Build it up in bite sized chunks. You will feel a much greater sense of achievement when you get to mark off each goal, you'll see yourself getting closer to that ultimate goal and feel more inclined to keep working at it as you reach closure on each goal you have set yourself.
    Don't make your goals too big, if you have to work too hard and find them unacheivable in one step, break it down into two smaller steps.

    Best of luck. Don't let people tell you it's impossible. But DO listen to the advice given. You have to go into it with as much information as possible and take off the rose coloured glasses to realise it is by far a horrendously difficult journey.
         
        04-10-2010, 07:26 PM
      #16
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by travlingypsy    
    A lot of good advice. Speaking as an underdog I know where your coming from, sorta, im old so its eaiser with getting a paying job.
    Kayty said to study hard, go to a univesity so you can get a high paying job. That's so true! Your focus should be on school first and finishing that so you can get into a good college, one with an awesome riding program maybe? If you have good grades, GPA and active do more horse things,camps,volunteer..ect. You can apply for student grants, loans to afford those great colleges. No one told me that I could get grants or even think of being able to afford student loans because of that I always thought college was out of reach. Even if a huge college isnt your dream, still consider going to a community college at least to get a degree in bussiness or something of interest that will help you form a good solid backup plan for bringing in that money if you can't land that dream team with training or going to the olypmics with sponors.

    Knowledge is key to unlocking life. If you REALLY want it and can't think of anything els in the world to do other then working with horses. Start indulging in the studies of horses. Try and learn as much as you can now and never stop studying until you die! :P no im just kinda kidding, lol. Like the rest have said experiance! Try and get as much as you can, soak it all up! Also don't be afraid to be yourself! Don't worry about what the other people at your barn think of you, unless your being mean then that's not going to get you anywhere. But don't be afraid to get out of your comfort zone and push your self to those next limits cause your going to have to!

    Have you told your trainer how far you want to go and your dreams, yet? I told mine that I wanted to be a horse trainer she didnt support that but I got over it and still going to go through with my goals. As of this day she's not my trainer don't let those people bring you down. Theres always another road to take you might have to jump over a log to get to the right one, but isnt it worth it? What are "barn bucks"? Does that go toward lessons or your lease? Is there anyway you can become a groom or stall cleaner or something to afford those extra lessons? Heck, you never know if you tell your trainer you dream and prove to her that you WANT it. She might take you under her wing and maybe you could apprentice for her down the line. You never know of the opportunities untill you start seeking them.
    Oh god, this is another long post sorry I've been in a very inspirational mood tonight plus I've got to much energy from coffee makes it easier to type a lot!
    You have brightened my day(: and yes I am a stall mucker, I braid, I run with little kids in lessons that can't control horses yet, and barn bucks are fake "barn money" that can be used towards extra lessons but not your regular one. I am saving up to get a couple lessons because its 28 for a whole month so that means you have to work 28 hours at the barn. Its kind of tricky but I LOVE your post(:
         
        04-10-2010, 07:37 PM
      #17
    Weanling
    GOOD FOR YOU! Follow that dream!
    Advice: Make as many connections as possible. :)
         
        04-10-2010, 07:57 PM
      #18
    Yearling
    -Stormy Im glad I gave you some hope! Also remember as you get older the better chances you have with apprenticing or getting better lessons, the more independant you are the easier it gets because you can have that extra job money if your parents can't support your horse dreams. And I know that part of the bit, my parents are divorced.. living with my mom ect. So I had to get a working student job to be able to get back into horses. If I can do it, so can you! I bet you'll get far your on the right track.
         
        04-10-2010, 08:05 PM
      #19
    Foal
    Not only do you want to get experience riding different horses but you just want experience in different areas of the horse world. You said your already helping with younger riders, taking care of horses and stuff which is great. Keep it up. But you could always expand--take some lessons in a different disipline, help at a theraputic riding program if there's one if your area, etc.

    I personally don't want to be a professional rider, I love and am totally content with schooling shows jumping 2'3". But I do want to be a riding instructor when I'm older at my barn (the highest my barn jumps is 2'3"). Even though I won't be training riders who are jumping higher then 2'3", I'll still need the experience of jumping higher. I am at my barn as much as I can during the school year but during breaks and summer I'm there at 8 every morning until about 9 at night. I LOVE helping with lessons and helping with anything else at the barn. But I know that while I should presue my dream, sometimes there might be road blocks. So I plan on going to college and doing a double major in Equine Studies and Computer Engineering. So I get experience in the horse world and can presue my dream, but still have something to fall back on if it doesn't work out.
         
        04-10-2010, 09:58 PM
      #20
    Foal
    My parents are also divorced like gypsy and they can't be in a room together without having a screaming argument, so its hard to talk about this stuff with them. Sometimes I wish I lived with one parent or my parents were back together because itd be alot easier, and we'd acctually have the money for a horse, but because of the whole "I have rto pay for a house and food on my own" thing I don't even bother bringing up the "BUY ME A HORSE!" subject.
         

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