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    09-20-2010, 10:58 AM
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Is dressage just for "fancy" horses?

Came across this video while looking for some other stuff... We have question raised from time to time here if dressage is just for fancy horses (I'm talking about higher level, not basics)... So I decided to post... Hope you'll enjoy the video... :)

     
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    09-20-2010, 11:02 AM
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Wow that is an AWESOME video, (take THAT warmblood snobs he he) thanks for posting! I actually disagree, I think dressage IS only for fancy horses, I just think that there are many different types of horses that are capable of being fancy

I had an interesting conversation with an FEI rider a couple of weeks ago regarding my mare. She asked what I planned to do with her and I said 'dressage initially and then I will see if she can jump'

Her response: 'Thoroughbred in dressage, hmmmm, interesting choice'

Grrrr.
     
    09-20-2010, 11:04 AM
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I will have to pass this on to a friend of mine who trains her appy in dressage. He may not have the advanced moves down but he sure looks good staying in frame and balanced!
     
    09-20-2010, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by kitten_Val    
Came across this video while looking for some other stuff... We have question raised from time to time here if dressage is just for fancy horses (I'm talking about higher level, not basics)... So I decided to post... Hope you'll enjoy the video... :)

YouTube - Grand Prix dressage movements

Lets put it this way.

The horse MOST likely to succeed at the top levels are the ones BRED for it...however............

Other breed and breed crosses have also done well and at the higher levels.

Connemara--Seldom Seen

TB...Keen

There is a quarter horse out the tyhat is well up there. But like the western disciplines for example..the horse bred for those classes (quarterhorses) are the ones that will do best.

My own GP horse was a quarab.
     
    09-20-2010, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Spyder    
Lets put it this way.


TB...Keen

Just curious, what do you mean by 'keen'? Is this a good thing or a bad thing


My own GP horse was a quarab.
I LOVE that.
     
    09-20-2010, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by sarahver    
Wow that is an AWESOME video, (take THAT warmblood snobs he he) thanks for posting! I actually disagree, I think dressage IS only for fancy horses, I just think that there are many different types of horses that are capable of being fancy
That's an interesting interpretation. I'd say you may TRAIN a horse to be fancy, even if initially it's not extremely pretty in movements.

BTW, I think TBs look very nicely in dressage ring with their long legs and wide movement.
     
    09-20-2010, 11:26 AM
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Spyder, I'm not arguing at all. Some breeds were "developed" (for the lack of better word) for dressage, some for jumping, some for cow work, etc. However number of people (and I had a funny experience running into such) truly think that if it's not a fancy warmblood (or at least TB) the horse can't succeed in dressage (or jumping) totally missing the fact that some horses in other breeds can be built and have mentality to go far in "not so typical" disciplines.
     
    09-20-2010, 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by kitten_Val    
That's an interesting interpretation. I'd say you may TRAIN a horse to be fancy, even if initially it's not extremely pretty in movements.

BTW, I think TBs look very nicely in dressage ring with their long legs and wide movement.
Agreed!

Besides, I don't need my horses to do complicated dressage movements, I am not under any illusions that I will be off to GP in this lifetime. Besides, the dressage requirements for eventing are much more basic than upper level dressage. Still must be executed with precision of course but I'm certainly not messing around with piaffe and passage. Much rather be flying over 4 foot fences
     
    09-20-2010, 02:23 PM
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Foal
If you look at the movements in dressage and in western riding you can see many, many similarities. I have an American Paint (large quarterhorse) who was trained western. She is being trained English now with me and she will do dressage, maybe some jumping.

My trainer rides only thoroughbreds and they do dressage and jumping.
     
    09-20-2010, 05:37 PM
  #10
Trained
It depends on your definition of "succeed". For most people to "succeed" at something is not simply to do it, but to do it well.
Yes any horse can do dressage, and can be trained to do the movements - usually in the form of "tricks". The video shows a well trained horse - but it does have a lot of trouble with the piaffe which is very common in horses not bred for dressage- they simply do not have the hind end conformation. I know a grade pony that did the GP but had a piaffe much like this Appaloosa's, walking behind.

Now to succeed in dressage you really do need the right conformation, the right mind and the right ability from the horse. To find a horse with these three things in combination and in the right amounts to have the potential to do Grand Prix is rare, even within the warmblood breeds, which is what makes them so expensive.

I am not saying other breeds cannot do the Grand Prix, just that it is extremely difficult that will find one which will succeed at it, even if you are purchasing a warmblood.
     

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