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    09-20-2010, 07:01 PM
  #11
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Originally Posted by sarahver    
Originally Posted by Spyder
Lets put it this way.


TB...Keen

Just curious, what do you mean by 'keen'? Is this a good thing or a bad thing


My own GP horse was a quarab.



I LOVE that.
Hilda Gurney and her TB horse Keen

Keen xx, a Pioneer of American Dressage

Also a good picture of a more MODERN horse with the poll at the highest point.
     
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    09-20-2010, 07:51 PM
  #12
Yearling
Or,

That horse is to small to do Dressage.

Oh psh I say! It doesn't matter if the horse is 12hh or 17hh tall, if it has the right mind, the right heart, the right training and the right rider...heck, you can do pretty much anything!

I'm dead set on working Divo in Dressage, I don't care how small he is He may not be capable of Grand Prix moves, but he'll definitely be a good Dressage horse. He can trot soooo slowly and animatedly it almost looks like he's preforming the piaffe.

There are many horses that work cows or jump fences and you think, "Oh, that horse is good at fences but I bet would excel at barrels." or "Oh, that horse is good with cows but I bet would work so well at Dressage"


You definitely don't need fancy, you just need to know what to look for ;)
     
    09-20-2010, 09:04 PM
  #13
Yearling
I agree with anebel here. Depends on what you mean by "succeed." For me personally, it's doing a canter half-pass that doesn't completely suck. :) No designs on FEI. But I know what I'm looking at. :) Any horse with decent conformation and more importantly, good training, can do dressage up to a point. Quarter horses, appys, cobs, fjords, whatever. The appy in the video could do most of the GP movements correctly, though the canter pirouettes looked a bit flat and laboured and she did the "walky" piaffe thing. That's awesome. If I could get my horse to do even a rubbish piaffe, that would be an amazing success. It's more than most of us will get out of our horses.

BUT to be competitive in international GP dressage, you need something that can do all the movements really correctly and better yet, with a bit of flair. Think of horses like Rembrandt, Bonfire, Brentina, and Blue Horse Matinee. They need the correct conformation and the correct temperament to accept that kind of intense training and have the physical capabilities for those movements. Even then, there are always compromises. Few warmbloods have the piaffe, passage, and canter pirouettes you see in Iberian breeds, which are close coupled and have incredibly powerful hindquarters, and loads of high action. But the Iberian horses, for the most part, don't have the spectacular extensions of the warmbloods. Not many Iberian horses win at international dressage (I saw a few Andalusians and Lusitanos in the last summer Olympics, but they got soundly beat by the WBs. Those big extensions count for a lot). But not many warmbloods are doing haute ecole. They're not built for that extreme collection.

The point is that for us amateurs who are happy doing dressage at low-ish levels, no, a super fancy horse isn't necessary. You can do correct movements, provided the training is there, but there is a point in dressage progression where the correct execution of certain movements (i.e. Piaffe) require the horse to have physical capabilities a lot of horses simply don't have.
     
    09-21-2010, 03:11 AM
  #14
Weanling
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Originally Posted by sarahver    
Wow that is an AWESOME video, (take THAT warmblood snobs he he) thanks for posting! I actually disagree, I think dressage IS only for fancy horses, I just think that there are many different types of horses that are capable of being fancy

I had an interesting conversation with an FEI rider a couple of weeks ago regarding my mare. She asked what I planned to do with her and I said 'dressage initially and then I will see if she can jump'

Her response: 'Thoroughbred in dressage, hmmmm, interesting choice'

Grrrr.
HA! Wonder what they'd say about my starting my Egyptian Arab in dressage.
You don't need a fancy-pants horse for dressage.
     
    09-21-2010, 09:19 AM
  #15
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Originally Posted by Amir    
HA! Wonder what they'd say about my starting my Egyptian Arab in dressage.
You don't need a fancy-pants horse for dressage.
Probably the same thing I got from the dressage world when I did.

YOU CAN'T DO IT !

     
    09-21-2010, 12:19 PM
  #16
Yearling
Oh my, an Arabian doing Dressage? I think I'm in love

I do miss Blue Hors Matinee, I loved watching her move.
     
    09-21-2010, 12:29 PM
  #17
Green Broke
Nice looking mare, wonder if she is from the Wap Spot line, they produce some fancy appaloosa sport horses.

I still think it takes a certain type of horse, bred a certain way, with a certain conformation to go all the way to GP. Any horse can do low level dressage though, even up to 1st or 2nd level.
     
    09-21-2010, 03:03 PM
  #18
Yearling
I have irrefutable proof that you don't need a fancy horse to do Dressage.



Proof I say!
     
    09-21-2010, 04:03 PM
  #19
Yearling
I love this story :


If they could do it, I do believe anyone has a chance to do it.
     
    09-21-2010, 04:57 PM
  #20
Yearling
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Originally Posted by twogeldings    
I have irrefutable proof that you don't need a fancy horse to do Dressage.

YouTube - Men Doing Dressage


Proof I say!
Other advantages of Men include perfect passage and piaffe, but they can also cook and fix your car. My horse doesn't do that!
     

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