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    02-01-2009, 07:55 PM
  #11
Weanling
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Originally Posted by Spyder    
Just to give you an idea of the minimum requirements take a look at this practice level 2 test. Many mistakes are being made here and if it were being judged would not get that good a score.

Can you or your horse put out this level of comaptibility and performance?

YouTube - Lisa & Bingo Helen 2nd Level Test 2 practice 7-23-08
yessss...someone with a worse sitting trot than me.
Excellent!
     
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    02-01-2009, 11:29 PM
  #12
Trained
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Originally Posted by ShowJumpLife    
I have put my name on the draw, will see how we go on wednesday and if I don't think he's up to it I wont do it.
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Originally Posted by xeventer17    
I'd say go for it. Like your trainer told you, it can't hurt to try. The other competitors and the judges too should understand. Besides trial and error can be the best way to learn sometimes.
... no comment.
I agree with Spyder. Why would you want to push the horse, skip training the basics and end up with an overfaced horse, nervous about collection?
Take your time, develop his muscles and try next year when you know that you can put in a respectable test.
And no, the judges will not be "understanding" to your situation. They will probably talk about you all show, and not in a good way. I have worked at shows and scribed for judges enough to know that they don't appreciate riders who push their horses too fast and overface them.
Trial and error is a valid method with some things, training horses it is not. If you make a big error, the horse may not ever forgive you. Educate yourself and your horse properly. Showing should exist only to confirm your training, not be the object of it.

PS. Lol Skyhuntress :P :P I know how you feel! Rowan enjoys rocketing me out of the saddle every stride when he gets excited....
     
    02-01-2009, 11:37 PM
  #13
Showing
I challenge you guys to sit Denny's trot.

Ugh. No wonder I have abs of steel... and I don't sit his trot too often!
     
    02-02-2009, 12:10 AM
  #14
Banned
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Originally Posted by ~*~anebel~*~    
... no comment.
I agree with Spyder. Why would you want to push the horse, skip training the basics and end up with an overfaced horse, nervous about collection?
Take your time, develop his muscles and try next year when you know that you can put in a respectable test.
And no, the judges will not be "understanding" to your situation. They will probably talk about you all show, and not in a good way. I have worked at shows and scribed for judges enough to know that they don't appreciate riders who push their horses too fast and overface them.
Trial and error is a valid method with some things, training horses it is not. If you make a big error, the horse may not ever forgive you. Educate yourself and your horse properly. Showing should exist only to confirm your training, not be the object of it.

PS. Lol Skyhuntress :P :P I know how you feel! Rowan enjoys rocketing me out of the saddle every stride when he gets excited....

We both see the same thing and I am unable to see how a counter canter can be achieved with the head in the air as posted in the original post.

As far as the trot....I love my guys forward trot as he has the motion that carries you with him, however in the passage he just about launches you right out of the saddle.
     
    02-02-2009, 02:07 AM
  #15
Foal
Ah his heads not in the air anymore..
This is us playing around a few weeks ago
I know he needs to work thorough more from behind and up over his neck into the contact more but his build really doesnt help it, being down hill, and we are getting there slowly :)
     
    02-02-2009, 02:14 AM
  #16
Trained
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Originally Posted by ShowJumpLife    
ah his heads not in the air anymore..
This is us playing around a few weeks ago
I know he needs to work thorough more from behind and up over his neck into the contact more but his build really doesnt help it, being down hill, and we are getting there slowly :)
Exactly, so why would you break your good progress and rush the horse forward to go to a show and overface the horse, possibly setting back your training even further?
This picture looks to me like the horse would be comfortable in a training level test (walk/trot/canter). He is not showing the power and strength to even lengthen/shorten his stride enough for a first level test, let alone carry a rider in sitting, collected trot.
     
    02-02-2009, 02:43 AM
  #17
Foal
Im starting to think that we have a differnt dressage system over here??
We only have to do 3 -5 strides lengthend trot and the same in canter both reins. About the same of counter canter down the long side too then change through trot.
Oh and theres only a tiny bit of sitting trot. Pretty much just down the centerline. Thank god cause he's bloody bouncey cause im used to a huge tb tht moved like a wb and now I have chance and he's little 15hh stubby pony lol.
     
    02-02-2009, 03:03 AM
  #18
Foal
Have you considered doing a couple of training days? You get judged as if it was a real competition but you don't get points and don't have to be registered with ESNZ
     
    02-02-2009, 04:32 AM
  #19
Foal
Don'T have a float so its pretty expensive to float to something. I usually only float to comps I know im going to at least place in.
This show is being held at my grazing so that's the only reason im doing it.
Plus I want to win the cup for my certificate level test :P Which I am coming 2nd= in the series so far!
     
    02-03-2009, 01:13 AM
  #20
Trained
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Originally Posted by ShowJumpLife    
im starting to think that we have a differnt dressage system over here??
We only have to do 3 -5 strides lengthend trot and the same in canter both reins. About the same of counter canter down the long side too then change through trot.
Oh and theres only a tiny bit of sitting trot. Pretty much just down the centerline. Thank god cause he's bloody bouncey cause im used to a huge tb tht moved like a wb and now I have chance and he's little 15hh stubby pony lol.
OOOOOOOHHH Novice. Ok, so even though you call Novice 2.1, 2.2, etc, here in North America, it isn't second level it is first level. First level is still a stretch for you and your guy but I'd go for it. We were all concerned that you were asking the horse for collection, walk pirouettes, canter-walk-canter transitions and lateral work.
Yeah it's no biggie, just ride the test well and you should do fine!
     

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