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    03-13-2012, 04:16 PM
Dropping amateur status for showing

Hey there!

I recently I have been considering starting to train and teach lessons over this summer as a job. I have plenty of experience with all kinds of horses and have worked with young horses before (currently riding my -very- green filly with lots of success) and I feel confident in my abilities. I ran this idea by my coach and she's definitely interested in helping me out with all of this along the way. However, I compete heavily throughout the summer and if I end up doing this I'm (obviously) going to lose my amateur status; I'm trying to weigh the pros and cons of doing this.

I don't know that I'm looking at this as a career right now (I'm in university but keeping my options open post-degree) so I'm not sure it's worth it. I also don't have anything lined up right now, so I have time to decide whether or not I want to do it. I may hold off until next year with this as well.

My questions: How many of you have dropped your amateur status and picking up professional status to train? Do you regret doing that or was it totally worth it? Pros? Cons?

I'm just trying to see all my options at this point!
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    03-13-2012, 05:39 PM
It's a 2 year struggle to regain your ammy status if you once go pro. And ever after there will be people who are really bitter about it if you go back to ammy and will be constantly trying to get your ammy status revoked. I would not do it.
    03-13-2012, 08:28 PM
I agree with Dreamcatcher. They even get cranky about spouses/children of trainers showing in an ametuer or non-pro classes. Depending on what your showing, do they have any limited classes?
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    03-13-2012, 10:05 PM
I do beleive that there is an "instructor of beginners" clause that allows you to keep your amatuer status.. you do have to declare it on your renewal forms though.
    03-14-2012, 12:05 AM
I'm thinking at this point it's probably better to just keep doing my lessons and continue learning and showing...maybe get another young one, once my filly sells, as a project for training. Plus the more I can learn the more I can teach. It's sounds like more of a hassle than anything - especially since I'm not going for this as a career right now. I've just looked into the "instructor of beginners" certificate as well and it seems like a really good point to start for instructing. If I choose to do anything that's going to be my starting point.

Plus with insurance and so on and so forth...probably not worth it for now.
Thanks for everyone's input so far!!

ETA Also the hassle for regaining the amateur is going to be just that - a hassle. You guys had good point with how people get worked up over things like that. I'm showing dressage, you can show all the tests but you have to ride in the open category. As far as I know that's the only limitation.
    03-14-2012, 12:38 AM
Yup, don't lose it unless you don't want it back (the decision I made at 20 when I started teaching). Although it's a great feeling when you kick a pro's butt that's been in the business twice as long as you've been a live ;) I never even bothered with the instructor of beginners thing, not worth the hassle in my mind.
    03-20-2012, 11:24 PM
It's not worth it if you aren't going to make this your career. I had my own business for several years and trained a ton before that. It's been almost 4 years since I technically have my ammy status back, but I haven't stepped into the Hunter ring since I left. Other than locally/unrecognized, people would not be very happy to see me in an AA class. I've found dressage a little more welcoming of people who flip flop between statuses.

If you want to work horses for more experience, you can always trade for things like rides to shows or schooling sessions. I personally like free rides to events. =)
    03-21-2012, 11:04 PM
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In response to what a lot of people said, it depends on what organization you're talking about. With USEF you have to wait 12 months (with no pro activities), fill out paperwork and then get the official "ok". I don't think it's a big deal or a hassle. I know lots of grandprix level riders who are now "amateurs".

It may or may not affect you very much at all. I haven't been an ammy for years. All that means to me at a local show level is that I can only show in the open classes. Which is what I'd be showing in anyways. In the hunters at rated shows it doesn't affect me either. In the jumpers though? Tons more prize money in the amateur stuff. Boo. But that's the only real place that affects me.

Something to consider is whether or not you're going to want to ride on a college team. I believe you *must* be an ammy for that.
    03-21-2012, 11:09 PM
Green Broke
Originally Posted by MudPaint    

If you want to work horses for more experience, you can always trade for things like rides to shows or schooling sessions. I personally like free rides to events. =)
FYI... "remuneration" means ANY kind of payment for services. Gift cards. Cash under the table. Hotel rooms. Hauling. Etc. Doesn't have to be a formal paycheck.
    03-21-2012, 11:37 PM
Originally Posted by COWCHICK77    
I agree with Dreamcatcher. They even get cranky about spouses/children of trainers showing in an ametuer or non-pro classes. Depending on what your showing, do they have any limited classes?
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Disregard my post...I just realized that this was in the English section

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