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post #1 of 12 Old 11-16-2012, 07:02 PM Thread Starter
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English saddle fit?

Yes, yes, I know, I've been asking an overload of English questions lately xD I've got another one for you :)
I had this old English saddle getting fixed, and I was planning on getting some Wintec Webbers to go with it. The barn I ride at (the BO makes saddles and is repairing mine) they had another old English saddle in the tack room (mine was my cousin's and is +20 years old but still in surprisingly good shape). This is a leather saddle, would the Webbers scratch/ damage the leather? I'm not really concerned about surface scratches because I def. Won't be showing (I am a Western rider and just want to ride in this saddle for fun and get some variety into my rides)?
Another question: Is it a big deal if the saddle is too big? I'm not sure how big it is, but I normally ride in a 14 inch Western saddle but I can fit into a 16 inch (leg length wise). When I had the BO look at the saddle, he said it had a big tree, but he didn't mention anything about if it would be too big for me (mind you I never asked, I wasn't aware if it made a difference). Would it be bad if it was a bit too big? I'm not planning on doing any serious English riding, just basically riding the same as I always do but in a different saddle; maybe see if I can go over some really tiny jumps (like 6 inches to so- about the height of a small bucket).

One more thing: any tips on riding in that saddle? I have been doing Western for 3 years (did English for 2 years before that), and I'm a bit nervous that I'm going to fall off or something or that I won't be able to keep my balance (but I think I have pretty good balance [not bragging just saying I can hold my balance bareback/in the saddle well]). I've never fallen off before, so the thought kind of scares me :/

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Too many questions to answer all, but regarding the size, you can find out the size of that old E saddle by measuring from the middle of the silver brad , either one, (the thing on the front that is like the concho on a W saddle), back to the middle edge of the cantle. So, it's at an angle. If it is 16 inches, then it's the same seat size as your 14 inch W saddle. You could manage probably in up to a 17inch, but larger than that and you'd be swimming in it. Even a 17 inch might not feel right. Kind of depends on how long your legs are, not how chunky your legs/butt are.
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Too many questions to answer all, but regarding the size, you can find out the size of that old E saddle by measuring from the middle of the silver brad , either one, (the thing on the front that is like the concho on a W saddle), back to the middle edge of the cantle. So, it's at an angle. If it is 16 inches, then it's the same seat size as your 14 inch W saddle. You could manage probably in up to a 17inch, but larger than that and you'd be swimming in it. Even a 17 inch might not feel right. Kind of depends on how long your legs are, not how chunky your legs/butt are.
What do you mean by 'swimming in it'? I kind of see what you mean by it, but I'm not really sure. Would the saddle (if it was a bit big) be ok to just leisurely ride in?
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What do you mean by 'swimming in it'? I kind of see what you mean by it, but I'm not really sure. Would the saddle (if it was a bit big) be ok to just leisurely ride in?
It's better to have a bit bigger saddle than a bit smaller saddle in my opinion. You might feel squeezed into the smaller saddle. Too large of a saddle might cause you to slide around too much unless you have a good, reliable seat. If it's a bigger saddle, try riding closer to the pommel instead of in the middle of the saddle to make it more comfortable. However, leave about four fingers between you and the pommel.

It may or may not be ok to ride leisurely in. Walk, trot, and maybe cantering (if you feel you can rely well on your seat) would be ok. When you say jumping, that's where it might be more dangerous. Trotting a jump that small could be ok if you feel comfortable with it. We can't tell whether you are good enough to not have to rely on the pommel and cantle to keep you in place. That's up to you and your abilities. If the saddle is quite a big larger, the cantle might bump you in the butt when you're going over a jump, so you may or may not need to come up more in the two-point. That also depends on how big your horse jumps.

I'd say just play it how it goes. If you feel comfortable riding in it, go for it! A bigger saddle seat seems to really show whether you have your own balance and seat instead of having to rely on the saddle to do the work. (: Good luck!

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Thanks y'all! I can't use the saddle-when the guy was taking the saddle apart to fix the billets he saw a crack in the tree :/ I think I put a little too much hope in the saddle and got my hopes up a bit too high, but I should've expected it, the saddle was +20 years old, and in storage for about half that time.
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^ Better make sure a new one gets on your Christmas wish list ;)

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^ Better make sure a new one gets on your Christmas wish list ;)
Haha :) I am a Western rider but I have to say I do want to ride in an English saddle....how's the Wintec brand?
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Haha :) I am a Western rider but I have to say I do want to ride in an English saddle....how's the Wintec brand?
I like mine. I've got a 500 with an adjustable gullet. I'm not set on any one English sport, which is why I went for a black all purpose. It's pretty comfortable and fits my boy pretty good. The nice thing about the adjustable gullets is that you won't have to buy a new saddle for every horse you get, you just put a new gullet in it ;)

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I'm *kinda* thinking about getting an English saddle, but then I would also have to get some different boots (although I can get boots+half chaps for about $70 total).
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If it's something you want, then don't hesitate. Mm, I love half chaps, when it gets hot, you can just take them off!

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