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post #1 of 7 Old 08-18-2009, 01:47 AM Thread Starter
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English? Should I?

Hello everyone I have a nine year old QH who I have trained to go western cutting reining trails mostly no games though he can't handle that. Anyways I thought I would like to throw english into the mix. But I do know some info its similar to reining but english flexing suppleness bending at the poll.I know little about english so question is what do I need to know about training? Of course I would get lessons but I would like to have some head room first.
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post #2 of 7 Old 08-18-2009, 09:19 AM
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IMO, turning a cutting/reining horse into English may be a challenge. He's used to a long rein, but in english you have constant contact on his mouth. He may very well dislike the whole idea and constantly toss his head. Another English thing is collection. Cutting/Reining horses are used to being all stretched out (for better lack of term..).

If it were me, I wouldn't change him. But if you're just looking to try it, then by all means, try it! Or instead of messing with your horse's mind, why not try a lesson barn and learn English that way (on English lesson horses)?

Sorry if I miss read your post, please correct me if I am wrong about anything.


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I know little about english so question is what do I need to know about training? Of course I would get lessons but I would like to have some head room first.
Sorry for double post XD

A good lesson barn doesn't care if you know anything about english riding/training. Heck, you could go in there, helmet backwards, bridle on all wrong, saddle falling off, and they could care less. Well, I mean they would fix everything and help you, but they wouldn't like, kick you out. Lessons are for learning. I wouldn't stress on learning all about english training before your first lesson. That's what the instructors are there for, to teach.


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Tasia. It will be very very difficult for you to teach a QH to ride "English" if you don't know how to do it yourself. The other poster is correct - the English way is to ride with a constant contact thru the bit to the mouth.
Yes the horse is allowed to stretch down QH style but usually only to rest the horse's neck muscles.
If you do go "English" , you'll have to learn to post to the trot. Your horse won't like you practising on him.
No, if you are serious - find a teaching barn which already has a horse trained "English"' on which you can learn.

In the long run, there is no reason why your horse can't carry you "English" but you don't want to hurt him in the near term do you?
We often see QHs ridden English in the UK but they were taught from the beginning to accept the "English" way.

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Thank you for the replies I think I will most likely stay western but maybe in the future get some lessons in english riding on a trained horse.

One of the reasons is my riding teacher used to be a dreassage trainer in germany so he brought up the Idea.Barry golden I already know how to post in a western saddle I learned on my horse. well I hope I still know how its not that easy is it?

Anyways in the training I do with western we don't let are horse get stretched out they learn self collection so we can perform more smoothly
Any ways thank you so much I don't think I will mess with his head yet.
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Tasia - you did not mention the German dressage teacher. If he is any good, he could be the best person to teach you.
But it is still the best idea to learn to ride on a "school master " horse.
Will he let you ride his horse, which presumably has already been schooled "English". However he might not want a novice to English to ride his horse.
Try asking him nicely.


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Tasia - you did not mention the German dressage teacher. If he is any good, he could be the best person to teach you.
But it is still the best idea to learn to ride on a "school master " horse.
Will he let you ride his horse, which presumably has already been schooled "English". However he might not want a novice to English to ride his horse.
Try asking him nicely.


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Sorry Barry Godden spelt your name wrong
I will talk to him more about it he said it might be something to try
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