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    08-14-2008, 12:01 AM
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Evading Contact

Yesterday when I was riding Jubilee she decided to be a dork and evade contact, by either sticking her head way up high or way down low. Either way, she was evading my contact. She was also being speedy when she was doing this too. Sometimes she's perfectly fine and responds awesome. Maybe it was an off day. But I don't want her to get away with it. She definitely knows better and it should NOT be happening. How do I deal with this? How do I correct it??
     
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    08-14-2008, 12:06 AM
  #2
Weanling
I mentioned Julie Goodnight on your other thread, here's a complete list of her q&a:
http://juliegoodnight.com/q&a.php

I think these are fantasticly well written--very clear, very easy to understand, very easy to try.
     
    08-14-2008, 11:06 AM
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What is the title of the topic, I couldn't find it?
     
    08-15-2008, 11:21 AM
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Anyone??
     
    08-15-2008, 12:29 PM
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Weanling
There's good info in these--

http://juliegoodnight.com/questionsNew.php?id=44

http://juliegoodnight.com/questionsNew.php?id=116

http://juliegoodnight.com/questionsNew.php?id=147

http://juliegoodnight.com/questionsNew.php?id=147

http://juliegoodnight.com/questionsNew.php?id=53

http://juliegoodnight.com/questionsNew.php?id=20
     
    08-15-2008, 05:51 PM
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Ok, thank you, I'll have to read those.
     
    08-16-2008, 12:41 AM
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Foal
Those two types of evasion mean very different things. If your horse sticks her nose up in the air, it means she's tense. She's not relaxed enough to give you her back and in turn, will not open her throat latch, reach down and grab the bit. To remedy this, you'll just have to hack around on a loose rein until she is relaxed, but even then, you have to go slowly and ask for only a little contact at a time. Praise what little she gives you. Never pull, yank or kick her into the contact, or your chances of obtaining true contact will be limited.

On the other hand, when she pushes down on the bit and pulls on your hands, she's heavy on the forehand. You need to lift her back by opening your seat and lifting with your legs and ask her to bring her back legs under her (or "engage" them) by encouraging forward motion with your seat and legs. Another thing to keep in mind, in the mean time, is when she leans on you ease your contact on one rein or both to let her know that you won't be giving her anything to lean on. Remember, tug-of-war is a two-player game!!
     
    08-16-2008, 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by JillyBean
Those two types of evasion mean very different things. If your horse sticks her nose up in the air, it means she's tense. She's not relaxed enough to give you her back and in turn, will not open her throat latch, reach down and grab the bit. To remedy this, you'll just have to hack around on a loose rein until she is relaxed, but even then, you have to go slowly and ask for only a little contact at a time. Praise what little she gives you. Never pull, yank or kick her into the contact, or your chances of obtaining true contact will be limited.

On the other hand, when she pushes down on the bit and pulls on your hands, she's heavy on the forehand. You need to lift her back by opening your seat and lifting with your legs and ask her to bring her back legs under her (or "engage" them) by encouraging forward motion with your seat and legs. Another thing to keep in mind, in the mean time, is when she leans on you ease your contact on one rein or both to let her know that you won't be giving her anything to lean on. Remember, tug-of-war is a two-player game!!
JillyBean, that makes a lot of sense. Thanks.
     
    08-24-2008, 07:09 PM
  #9
Foal
I warm Starship up with draw reins, that way he doesn't really have a choice and the back muscles get warmed up good. After about twenty minutes (walk, trot and canter all good) I take them off and he stays down.
If I start without the extra reins he keeps his head up the entire time and I get into a pulling contest to get his head down, needless to say I never win.
I don't need to keep the draw reins short, it seems the idea of them is enough for him.
     

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