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post #1 of 14 Old 08-21-2011, 11:05 PM Thread Starter
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EXPERIENCED JUMPERS WANTED for step-by-step guide

This is a big request, I know!
And I'm really sorry if this is already out there somewhere, I looked but couldn't find something like it.

Can you guys help me? My knowledge of jumping is cobbled together from many different instructors and friends. I know everyone's style and technique is different but I feel like I've never gotten a really solid set of instructions for the whole jump!

Basically I'm looking for step-by-step instructions on
The Approach
The Takeoff
Mid-air
Get-Away

My main problem is that i've gotten various answers on where certain body parts should be at each stage. Some say legs straight, some say folded, some say above the pommel some say behind it, etc!

I know this also varies with the size of the jump so maybe we could do low/med/high varieties of instructions.

Like I said, a HUGE request, but maybe we could make it a sticky for newbies like me! I know I respect the advice I get on this website, and it's already helped me a lot!
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post #2 of 14 Old 08-21-2011, 11:16 PM
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Sorry no advice here but I would also be intrested in finding out some techniques in the matter(:

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post #3 of 14 Old 08-22-2011, 01:20 AM
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I AM NO EXPERT but I do jump. This is how I learned.
Going into jump at trot- post, 2 to 3 strides out lift and open shoulder lean slightly forward. Horse begins to jump- heels down, two-point position, crest release until over jump. Once horses tail is over jump begin to sit back in saddle. All the time heels down and eyes straight ahead.

Canter in- same thing except count 1,2,1,2,1,2... For strides out. If coming into jump where horse will take long, short, or chip it decide if you want to collect and add a stride or add leg to take a stride out.

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Great, thanks for stopping in!
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post #5 of 14 Old 08-22-2011, 11:24 AM
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I AM NO EXPERT but I do jump. This is how I learned.
Going into jump at trot- post, 2 to 3 strides out lift and open shoulder lean slightly forward.

I think this gets a lot of people in trouble. If you have anything besides a "push button horse/pony" This can be taken as getting ahead of the horse and your horse will stop and you are at risk of falling into the fence and unless you are a man it is difficult to apply enough pressure with your legs to get them to go. OR, your horse will jump early and knock a rail down or crash into the jump.

I always keep my self sitting up nice and tall all the way to the base of the jump.

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post #6 of 14 Old 08-22-2011, 11:48 AM
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I think this gets a lot of people in trouble. If you have anything besides a "push button horse/pony" This can be taken as getting ahead of the horse and your horse will stop and you are at risk of falling into the fence and unless you are a man it is difficult to apply enough pressure with your legs to get them to go. OR, your horse will jump early and knock a rail down or crash into the jump.

I always keep my self sitting up nice and tall all the way to the base of the jump.
this is correct, you do not want to start leaning EVER you are to go into 2-pt when the horse front legs are about to leave the ground, you should 3 pt your seat or sit depending on your discipline, about 2-3 strides from the fence to help balance your horse and get them sitting on their haunches. As they come up to the fence you think about pushing your toes forward bc uncouciously (sp) this will push your feet/heels down to where they should be, and squeeze your leg, (the amount of squeeze depends on your horse)then crest release as the horse starts to leave the ground and get your butt out of the saddle but not too far about, you want about 2-3 inches btwn your bum and the saddle. And release all the way over the fence as the horses front feet hit the ground pull your shoulders back but DO NOT sit, you start to sit or go back into your 3-pt or 2-pt after 2-3 strides after the fence, this will ensure you do not get in the habit of sitting back into the saddle too early and impeding your horses jump. And make sure to look up after the jump and straight at the middle of the jump as you come up to it.

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post #7 of 14 Old 08-22-2011, 11:21 PM
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Thanks. I never would have known. Now have a new bad habit to break. Like I said that's how I learned. Anything else to change?

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I am no expert either, but this is how I learnt:

The approach:
A huge factor is going in straight, and jumping in the center of the jump. If you jump skew, it would be an awkward jump for both you and the horse. Another important thing is maintaining a consistent pace. When I trot towards jumps, I keep my leg off my horse (unless she's lazy), because she has an active trot and I keep her focused, calm and slow by gently playing with the reins to slow her if she speeds up, or I slow my posting. Then about 3 strides away I sit, as it helps me "feel her".

At a canter, once again straightness and a consistent pace are important. This time I keep my leg on, but I don't use it, because she has a slow lopey canter
And sometimes hesitates, and I will need to just give her a squeeze to encourage her. I keep my reins snug to hold her until the jump, but about two strides away, I lengthen them a smidge to give her her head to be able to take off.

I look at the jump just to get straight and centered, then I look straight again. I find that staring at the jump tends to make me freeze up.

Take off:
At both trot and canter, when we get to the take off point, I give her a squeeze or a kick (depends on what height the jump is), and I make a noise of encouragement, such as a click, or I tell her "hup". It encourages her to tuck, and jump up rather than forward. For my release, I put my hands right behind her ears. It may not look pretty but it helps me to remember to release and it doesn't catch her in the mouth, and after a few jumps I can just move my hands halfway up her neck. I also swing my legs forward and "pin" it there so that they don't go backwards, and I go into two point with my heels pressed firmly down. And look straight

Mid air:
In mid air I pull gently on the rein of which way I'm going to turn next, so that she lands on the right leg, but I keep my release. It's at this point that I start to look at my next jump, not down at her neck.

Landing and going away:
I keep the release and two point for a half a stride after the jump, then I sit back (gently) and bring my hands back. I slow her if I need to, or speed her up if I need to. Then I head for my next jump, and redo the whole thing :)

And a good piece of advice I've heard is; If you don't back off from the jump, neither will your horse. Say to yourself; "I CAN do this, my horse CAN do this, so we WILL do it!"

Like I said, I'm no expert, but that's what I do... Hope it helps

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post #9 of 14 Old 08-23-2011, 11:32 AM Thread Starter
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Thanks so much, everyone's being wonderful!
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post #10 of 14 Old 08-24-2011, 03:54 PM
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Not trying to take over this thread, but how should I jump with a new horse. (he jumped on trails before I got him and he was western so I don't think he was ever having someone 2point over a jump) Weve been doing small X jumps at Trot to work on going to center. I'm just wondering how I should be positioned when jumping. Is it pretty much te same?

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