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post #1 of 6 Old 04-27-2008, 08:43 PM Thread Starter
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a few questions

-what is your definition of "beginner," "intermediate," advanced?" as far as jumping is conserned. Like how high and how well you do it.

-what level do you think you are at, how high do you jump, and how long have you been riding/how often?

I have been riding for like 5 years and am jumping 2'6"-3" (but i'm riding lesson horses so they can't jump too high). I think i'm in intermediate? But I know this girl who competes in advanced and i'm at the same level as her. (i don't ever do shows so I don't know for sure).
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I just quickly thought about it, and these are my (very, VERY basic) answers:

Beginner - no knowledge up to being able to confidently jump a 2'6" course with fair form.
Beginner/Intermediate: Basic understanding of strides, can find the "box"
Intermediate: Able to jump a fairly technical course while being in correct form, knows leads, changes leads, can design a basic course. Can jump a 3'9" course with ease.
Advanced: Influences striding of the horse, can tell the horse when to jump, can find distances in a very difficult course, has excellent form. Jumps 4'+ well.

I think the transition from intermediate to advanced is a very grey area, and isn't very well defined.
To be honest, you can't put a label on heights and say "well if you can jump 3' then you're intermediate" because that may not be the case. But I tried to outline things...

This is very vague. As in, VERY vague... I just threw some stuff out there that I would expect to see in a rider at each level.
There are so many different factors in this, and I'm too tired tonight to write them all up.
You are not an advanced rider if you're plunked on a schoolmaster horse that takes care of you and although you're jumping 4'6", you don't have the proper form. An advanced rider rides every single stride of a course, and can influence almost every movement. They tell the horse how to approach, when to jump, then let the horse do its thing while actually jumping, then take over again when the first hoof hits the ground.

I personally think I'm an advanced intermediate; I think I have a good understanding of jumping, but I'm the first to admit I have a ton to learn still about jumping, and you won't find me in the GP ring anytime soon! But I can influence a horse's stride, find the box to get a good bascule, change leads, and figure my way around a fairly technical course.


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I don't think that jump height is a good indicator because that also has to do with the size and ability of the horse/pony they are riding. Most ponies won't jumo over 3'.
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i don't think that jump height is a good indicator because that also has to do with the size and ability of the horse/pony they are riding. Most ponies won't jumo over 3'.
I don't find that thay won't jump over 3' - most ponies I've ridden easily clear 3'6" ... anyways it's another good point; if you're jumping 3' on a pony, you might be a little more advanced than 3' on a horse?
Height of jumps aren't a good indicator, really..


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thanks so much for the info JDI, that helps a lot. I think it's different at different barns too, like at my barn most people are young and so haven't been riding too long, but then there are people who have been riding forever and they have horses that make them look really good. Then there's the stuborn ponies that buck and such...thanks!
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Twinkle_toes wrote:
I don't think that jump height is a good indicator because that also has to do with the size and ability of the horse/pony they are riding. Most ponies won't jumo over 3'.


I don't find that thay won't jump over 3' - most ponies I've ridden easily clear 3'6" ... anyways it's another good point;

I meant that in hunters (what I do) a small pony will never jump over 2'3", a medium over 2'6", and a large over 3' - no matter how advanced the rider is
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