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    09-08-2012, 08:00 PM
  #11
Yearling
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Originally Posted by Ashsunnyeventer    
We were with Carrollton Hounds. There were 7.5 pairs of hounds, and 7 of the 15 dogs were puppies who had never done a live hunt. I was talking to my trainer and she said that we werent spread out enough. I can't figure out why first flight took a different path and ended up behind us.

The dogs got a scent of a fox, but they weren't allowed to go after it. We had a path that we went on and it wasn't just galloping randomly through fields. Also, there was first, second and third field, but no one was jumping. It was like a group trail ride, but some people were galloping with the hounds, some were trotting and then we were in the back fighting with our horses.

I see what you mean about it being a clique. After the hunt, my dad was tlking to the master and showing him pictures he took. My dad called them "dogs" and the master said "We don't have dogs, we have hounds" lol.

In the beginning, all of the horses were standing around waiting for it to start. There was a whipper-in next to me and she was swinging her whip thing form one side of her horse to the other. Everytime it came back towards me my horse would spook into another horse. There was no sense of personal bubble space!

And since you were a "nobody", she didn't care that your horse reacted to the whip. She probably figured "The horse has to get used to it anyways" or "If you don't like it, move". If the Field Master's horse was reacting, you bet she'd stop in a heatbeat.

The hounds have 3 words. "Hounds", "Dogs" (dog is a term they used for the males) and "B*tches" (which is what they call the females). They also use welps and pups, but usually not out on the hunt. So don't be surprised if you hear the B word a lot.

It sounds like what we would call a Hound Walk. There were really no separate fields, just people to keep the hounds from going on scent during exercise, but there was no jumping unless a hound took off through a fence and you needed to retrieve it.

Its odd to me to have so many people on practice runs that they had fields. Usually someone is in charge of each field to make sure that field is out of the way and stays safe. It seemed pretty uncorganized and it'll probably get better when the real hunts take place. That's when wearing the wrong shade of blue can be an insult or whatever.

JJ, hunting is a ton of fun. It can be rather tramatic though. Lots of injuries...I remember having to rehab at least 2 horses that I would send out every time. They'd go out healthy, come back broken, and I'd have to fix them before the next hunt. Its equally as dangerous for the dogs. We had a hound bound over a hill and literally spear himself from throat to gut in a raised piece of wood. Its an extremely hard sport on the animals.

Second and third field have less injuries and many people participate for years before anything happens.
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    09-08-2012, 09:34 PM
  #12
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I've been a first flight hunter with colors in two fast hunts and I will disagree with the portrayal of horses there. At NO time should ANY horse, whether first, second or hilltopper, be out of control and unable to be told exactly where in the field they should be comfortable in. Unless you are the master, you are never in front. The horse must be able to stay back and behave.

And hilltoppers are not always a "trailride". I capped at Red Mountain Hounds with a student who was riding hilltoppers. So, as her guest, I rode there as well. The man leading the hilltoppers was extremely knowledgeable about the hunt territory and knew exactly where to go to stay near the action. It was mostly walk/trot, but there were some canters, too. I can't tell you how many times we ended up before the first flight because they went around and we cut through. We were rarely too far behind. And no, it was perfectly acceptable to all involved.

You did the right thing to retire that day. I would stay away from the bigger weekend hunts for a while and stay on the midweek hunts. The fields are usually much smaller then.

Kicking a horse is bad enough. It is MUCH worse to kick a hound. You don't want to risk being excused from the field. It is really bad Juju. Just try easing him in slowly. Try giving him some calming paste to take the edge off. Nothing too seriously strong, though.

And, be aware that not all horses are suited to hunting. It just may be that he isn't the one for you to hunt at all. I had a lovely event mare that hunted for years in Colorado, where the terrain is wide open and rolling. HOWEVER, when I moved to NC where the hunts were on narrow trails with thick brush on either side....where the field constantly stopped and turned running through the other members, this mare went nuts. She couldn't handle it and was not hunted anymore. It was just too upsetting to her.
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    09-08-2012, 09:46 PM
  #13
Weanling
This was just for experience. The dressage is getting really hard for him to do, but he still loves cross country. I figured foxhunting would be a good thing to try. We will probably just stick to the hunter paces where he can be in front.

I forgot to ask in my earlier post. I saw a girl who had a stick with a plastic yellow flag on it. What does that mean?
     
    09-08-2012, 09:48 PM
  #14
Weanling
Copperhead- One time we found a stray dog walking around our barn. He had a broken leg. Turns out he belonged to a local hunt and had been missing for 2 weeks! They had the puppies chained to the older dogs so no one got lost this time.
     
    09-08-2012, 09:51 PM
  #15
Yearling
I think we are agreeing on everything you mentioned.

I did say a "glorified" trailride though. Walk, trot and some canter and you get to watch the action. I saw a couple leadline ponies with tiny passangers in the third field, so hilltopping really isn't that strenuous, and yes, you have to have an experienced guide who knows the area so they can keep the third field safe and out of the way if at all possible.

I remember being in the first field and it was SO HARD sometimes to stay in the back, because the horse in training I was on was always fighting to charge into the front. He eventually learned and became a good mount for the whipper in.

First field horses need to be somewhat hot without an E on the gas gage, though. They need to run for hours with no stop. This doesn't mean they shouldn't be responsive to their riders. It just means that the breaks shouldn't catch as often as a horse who doesn't have the right stuff for the job. Its a very hard job on the horses. I had some horses come back with nose bleeds after a hunt, and it was just from running for so long.
     
    09-08-2012, 09:54 PM
  #16
Yearling
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Originally Posted by Ashsunnyeventer    
Copperhead- One time we found a stray dog walking around our barn. He had a broken leg. Turns out he belonged to a local hunt and had been missing for 2 weeks! They had the puppies chained to the older dogs so no one got lost this time.
Wow! We always equipped the hounds with tracking collars because you never really knew where they would go. Some of them would randomly decide to hunt deer since stag hound was breed into their blood. After the hunt, we would go out in trucks with tracking systems and search the area for any missing dog out there. If I remember right, we brought everyone home except for one.

I don't recall what really happened. I wasn't involved in that specific hunt, but I did hear them report that after this hound had been missing for so long, they found her dead under one of the parked trucks next to the kennel. Looks like she came home just a little too late and died.
     
    09-08-2012, 10:05 PM
  #17
Weanling
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Originally Posted by Copperhead    
Wow! We always equipped the hounds with tracking collars because you never really knew where they would go. Some of them would randomly decide to hunt deer since stag hound was breed into their blood. After the hunt, we would go out in trucks with tracking systems and search the area for any missing dog out there. If I remember right, we brought everyone home except for one.

I don't recall what really happened. I wasn't involved in that specific hunt, but I did hear them report that after this hound had been missing for so long, they found her dead under one of the parked trucks next to the kennel. Looks like she came home just a little too late and died.
I think the dog was from a brand new hunt. They didn't have the training down yet... It looks like such a fun sport, but with my older guy- he can't run forever and he obvioulsy doesn't want to stay in back. Thank you for all your help, and at least I learned something new :)
     
    09-08-2012, 10:22 PM
  #18
Yearling
Some people hunt for their entire lives and love it. The person who launched the organization many years ago still hunts...he can't ride anymore. He's way too old. Instead, he has a personal driver and a 4wheel drive vehicle that he blazes the trails with. You can find him here and there in the woods, yelling at his driver or sticking his head out of the door and blow his horn.

I did it for a while. It was a lot of fun. The pay was good, but it was finally time for me to move on. It might have been this particular organization, but I couldn't take how they handled the horses and hounds anymore. I saw a lot of cruelty. I think if I had the option to ride in a hunt again without all the cruelty in the background, I would do it.

I also didn't like the politics. But I hate all politics.

Some people try it once or twice and decide its not for them. The experience is fun though, and its definitely something to tell the grandkids about.

I have no idea what the little yellow flag was about. I've never seen it in any of the hunts I went to.
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