Getting a horse to use its Hind and go on the bit?
 
 

       The Horse Forum > Riding Horses > English Riding

Getting a horse to use its Hind and go on the bit?

This is a discussion on Getting a horse to use its Hind and go on the bit? within the English Riding forums, part of the Riding Horses category
  • Teach a horse to go on the bit

Like Tree1Likes
  • 1 Post By tinyliny

 
LinkBack Thread Tools
    08-10-2013, 04:11 PM
  #1
Foal
Post Getting a horse to use its Hind and go on the bit?

Hello,
Im new to this forum and this is my first ask!

So basically I wanted to know how you ASK a horse to work from behind and go on the bit with your hands/seat/legs. I ride a few horses at the moment, they know how to work on the bit and use there hind end correctly as I've seen other people ride them. When I ride them, its a completely different story. They are not engaged and on the forehand and they are not on the bit resulting there head not being on the vertical. I want to work the horse properly but I can't without doing these things. Obviously every horse is different so I wanted to know different ways of asking this to the horse.

Thankyou :)
     
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
    08-11-2013, 07:42 PM
  #2
Yearling
I ride western. But I would imagine its the same concept regardless of your discipline. The way I was taught vertical flextion is to pick the reins so there is contact with the mouth and drive the horse forward with your legs, when the horse bridles up or gets vertical they find relief from the bit and your legs keep driving them forward, so your pushing the horse into the bridle keep in mind collection and vertical flextion are a feel not a look. The horse should not be pulling against you, and you should not be pulling the reins to keep the horse vertical. Your legs and seat do the communicating. The horse should be soft in the bridle. Don't know if this helps, it is harder for me write about it then do it why not just ask someone who you see riding to help you.
     
    08-11-2013, 09:49 PM
  #3
Trained
Although I mostly use a saddle with English roots (Australian stock saddle), my approach to riding is more western. OTOH, my favorite books on riding are based on a forward seat, which is usually considered an English style.

VS Littauer broke riding into 3 levels of control. The main thing that distinguished the move from elementary control to intermediate control was getting the horse 'on the bit', or riding with continual contact. He thought most riders could meet their riding needs reasonably well with loose reins, but encouraged any rider to eventually ride with contact: the intermediate level.

He said horse move their heads for balance, and the first requirement for intermediate control was to have a solid, consistent seat. That was because soft and constant contact with the horse's mouth required the rider to move their hands and arms to match the horse's head. If your hands can't move independently of your rump, then you cannot have soft contact.

Without knowing anything about your riding, I'd encourage you to not worry about how vertical your horse's head is. There are disciplines where a vertical headset can be the result of correct movement by the horse, but it flows out of the correct balance and motion of the horse's body.

But long before that step comes riding with contact. There are books written on the subject, but it mostly seems to me to combine a solid seat, soft following contact and having something to 'say' to the horse that makes the horse believe 'listening' to the bit is worthwhile.

If you have more information you can share on what type of English riding you enjoy and the background of the horse you ride, it will help others to give you a better answer.
     
    08-11-2013, 10:01 PM
  #4
Super Moderator
To be able to ride a horse on a reasonable contact, and expect him to be accepting of that and soft enough that you could push him from behind into the bridle, you must first have a seat that is stable and independent enough to make changes to the contact, seperate from how your body might be moved around by the horse.

If you are not as advanced as these other riders who can create a working contact with this horse, then you should concentrate first on developing an independent seat.

Also, work on being able to follow the horse's motion with just enough contact that there is no snapping of the reins, loose/tight, loose/tight as the horse moves it head while walking. This is acheived by having soft enough elbows that allow you to move with the horse, following his mouth.

Next comes the ability to make a more meaningful contact that is asking the hrose to flex and soften to YOUR hand. This is a simple explanation to developing contact. It is not collection, just contact.
equinelyn likes this.
     

Tags
dressage, on the bit

Quick Reply
Please help keep the Horse Forum enjoyable by reporting rude posts.
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the The Horse Forum forums, you must first register.

Already have a Horse Forum account?
Members are allowed only one account per person at the Horse Forum, so if you've made an account here in the past you'll need to continue using that account. Please do not create a new account or you may lose access to the Horse Forum. If you need help recovering your existing account, please Contact Us. We'll be glad to help!

New to the Horse Forum?
Please choose a username you will be satisfied with using for the duration of your membership at the Horse Forum. We do not change members' usernames upon request because that would make it difficult for everyone to keep track of who is who on the forum. For that reason, please do not incorporate your horse's name into your username so that you are not stuck with a username related to a horse you may no longer have some day, or use any other username you may no longer identify with or care for in the future.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.


Old Thread Warning
This thread is more than 90 days old. When a thread is this old, it is often better to start a new thread rather than post to it. However, If you feel you have something of value to add to this particular thread, you can do so by checking the box below before submitting your post.

Thread Tools

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
HELP! My gelding crosses his hind left over his hind right at the trot! AshlynNicole94 Horse Health 6 10-22-2012 08:00 PM
How can you tell if a horse is using his hind end? Horsealot Horse Training 6 08-24-2012 10:19 PM
My horse on his hind feet Lebanese horse lover Horse Pictures 11 03-14-2012 03:10 PM
A Little Bit Of Everything? Hind Ends and Flying Changes stormyweather101 Horse Training 12 02-05-2011 04:24 PM
Getting A Horse To Use Their Hind Quaters ChingazMyBoy Horse Training 1 11-11-2009 11:26 AM



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:04 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0