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post #1 of 16 Old 12-12-2008, 02:20 PM Thread Starter
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Going to be a english rider soon!

So once i get my head on my shoulders and get my english things i will start riding. i do not think i will jump, it will be something new for me and Toby. is there any thing that i should watch out for? and what can i do to make the transition go smooth with the appy man? Thanks!

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post #2 of 16 Old 12-12-2008, 07:03 PM
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the saddle will feel lighter for him so maybe lunge him first to get used to the different wieght. I dont know really Ive only ever ridden english and owned english trained horses
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post #3 of 16 Old 12-12-2008, 08:45 PM
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Well, I just "transitioned" a horse from Western to English. I can say the process took longer than I thought it would. Like CessBee said, make sure you give your horse plenty of time to get used to the feel of the saddle, the lightness of it, and the way it rides on him. Also, when riding him for the first few times in the English saddle, it is best to just walk him so he can understand how the rider is supposed to move with him.

I was stupid enough to just throw my saddle on the horse and hop right on. Which caused my horse to throw me many a times.

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I was stupid enough to just throw my saddle on the horse and hop right on. Which caused my horse to throw me many a times.
That's really interesting. I've thrown an english saddle on many many western horses and never gotten any type of protest! I never really thought it was a big deal to switch from English to Western. Especially saddle-wise. I figured if there was going to be a problem it would be switching bits/steering.
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post #5 of 16 Old 12-13-2008, 10:50 AM Thread Starter
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Thank you, i am not sure how Toby will do i am hoping ok. i plan on walking him around for a little bit. then i will ride in the round pen.

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post #6 of 16 Old 12-13-2008, 09:13 PM
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That's really interesting. I've thrown an english saddle on many many western horses and never gotten any type of protest! I never really thought it was a big deal to switch from English to Western. Especially saddle-wise. I figured if there was going to be a problem it would be switching bits/steering.
Haha. I have too. But I am just saying that one of the horses that I have switched was a performance horse who had never even seen an English saddle, and just was confused.

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post #7 of 16 Old 12-13-2008, 10:45 PM
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I think another big difference is the contact of the bit on the horse's mouth...I know that my horse wasn't used to it, she was ridden Western before I got her (and I have always ridden English), on a very loose rein, and it took about a month before she really starting accepting the contact I had on her mouth. At first she would throw her head around a lot, she didn't really understand why I had slight contact all the time...so I had to ride her with the reins kind of loose for awhile first and gradually work our way up to full contact at all times (although I'm still VERY quiet on her mouth, since she is still so sensitive to it, plus there's no real need for me not to be, she listens pretty well and doesn't run away with me or anything)! Good luck!

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post #8 of 16 Old 12-15-2008, 12:26 AM
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I was stupid enough to just throw my saddle on the horse and hop right on. Which caused my horse to throw me many a times.
That should not happen, IF the saddle fits properly and you're placing it in the right spot on his back. I have switched many horses from western to english and vice versa and there was never a problem with the saddle. A "regualr" or "medium" tree English saddle will not, I repeat NOT, fit most American stock type horses. If you ride in one and your horse is anywhere near "stocky" through the chest, shoulders, and barrel, then your horse will very likely show his displeasure in the new saddle. This is NOT the fault of the saddle, the fault lies in the rider or trainer who did not properly fit the saddle before riding...

Also, an English saddle should set well back on the horse. The front d-rings should be a good 2-3" behind the back edge of the horse's shoulder blades. Only the front of the flaps (on an AP or CC jumping saddle) should overlap the horse's shoulder.

The big transition issue usually occurs if a horse was only ridden in a curb or gag bit. A plain snaffle (no shanks) doesn't have much bite, so you often need to "re-sensitize" the horse to a more mild bit. Some work in the arena or round pen on walk/stop transitions and lots and lots and lots of turning and circling usually gets your point across and helps the horse better understand. You also need to learn to use your seat and legs to control your horse, not just the bit. Using seat and leg will help the transition go more smoothly.
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post #9 of 16 Old 12-16-2008, 04:02 AM
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My paint went through the transition a while ago.
To begin with he was confused with ALOT of things. Mainly rein and seat pressure. Although he's come around in leaps and bounds.
Every now and then he'll have a moment and wont listen to my "english" aids, but that passes very quickly!

So for me, the main thing I had to be really aware of was my seeat and my hands.
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post #10 of 16 Old 12-16-2008, 10:15 AM Thread Starter
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All right that helps a lot,the training will not start in till i lose more weight and i have to work with him.

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