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    12-17-2011, 01:06 PM
  #1
Foal
Got bucked off twice last night..

Well last night I got to the barn and had to ride a different mare than the one I usually do. So I got on her and she was acting up from the very beginning( holding her head way up and pinning her ears, and she has a bad habbit of trying to kick the other horses. She iis normally riddeen by youger kids and doesn't get corrected so I think I was pissing her off because I wasn't letting her get away with anything. So we were trotting and another horse got to close to her and she tried to kick so I kicked her hard and smacked her and that sent her off in a bucking fit and I fell off. I got back on and then we cantered and were fine for a while and then she decided she was going to start galloping and I got her to slow down and then she bucked me off again, but I got back on and we just trotted cross rails for the rest of the lesson.
Then after the lesson 2 other like 12 or 13 year old girls came over to me and told me I shouldn't ride her again and to stick with the other mare. Now I am not sure what there intentions were but I took that as saying I sucked on her and am not able to handle her and I am starting to think that they are right. So right now I am really frustrated and my confidence is pretty low right now. So any opinions/ advice?
Oh and I am 15 btw if that matters.
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    12-17-2011, 07:03 PM
  #2
Yearling
First, I wouldn't put credence into what other riders say per se. This may sound like sour grapes on teens but some just can't help but give their opinions especially when they have a high opinion that they are better riders than everyone else. We have teens at our barn who were banned from the barn for a full month due to their constant bullying, harrassing and criticism of other riders. They weren't just doing it to the younger kids but to adults as well. Your instructor/trainer should be your guide. If the instructor felt you were ready for the mare than go with it.

As you pointed out, it could very well be that because you were correcting the mare's poor behavior she was throwing the proverbial temper tantrum. Sure, anyone else may get on her and let her get away with everything but it doens't help the mare in the long run and certainly doesn't work to correct the mare's issues. It also doesn't improve the other riders' riding ability..it makes them a passenger, not a rider. The fact that you got back on twice and even finished with jumping, even simple crossrails, tells me a lot of your mettle.

If you ride this mare again, think of more subtle means of correction. Some horses just get stupid with a crop. Force her into a circle, as tight as you can get, make her work hard when she acts up. Eventually she will figure out that kicking, bolting or being an obnoxious so and so isn't worth the consequence of then having to work three times as hard. Plus, in a circle, she can't kick, buck or bolt.

An example...my last horse had a serious problem with standing at the mounting block. On the very first day after I bought him, it took me 15 mins to get on him. Why, because every time he moved off I forced him into a tight circle and made him move his feet by making him give way with his hind quarters. It may have taken 15 mins but he eventually stood still and never again in 5 years moved off from the mounting block without my giving the signal.
     
    12-17-2011, 07:11 PM
  #3
Banned
At least you got back on BOTH times.
I bet those girls would have done the same.
That took major confidence there!
Don't be put off by them.
Heck, keep riding that mare. Show whose boss and those little girls too.
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    12-17-2011, 11:18 PM
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*wouldn't.
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    12-17-2011, 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by tlkng1    
First, I wouldn't put credence into what other riders say per se. This may sound like sour grapes on teens but some just can't help but give their opinions especially when they have a high opinion that they are better riders than everyone else. Your instructor/trainer should be your guide. If the instructor felt you were ready for the mare than go with it.

As you pointed out, it could very well be that because you were correcting the mare's poor behavior she was throwing the proverbial temper tantrum. Sure, anyone else may get on her and let her get away with everything but it doens't help the mare in the long run and certainly doesn't work to correct the mare's issues. It also doesn't improve the other riders' riding ability..it makes them a passenger, not a rider. The fact that you got back on twice and even finished with jumping, even simple crossrails, tells me a lot of your mettle.

If you ride this mare again, think of more subtle means of correction. Some horses just get stupid with a crop. Force her into a circle, as tight as you can get, make her work hard when she acts up. Eventually she will figure out that kicking, bolting or being an obnoxious so and so isn't worth the consequence of then having to work three times as hard. Plus, in a circle, she can't kick, buck or bolt.
Agreed on all counts.

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We have teens at our barn who were banned from the barn for a full month due to their constant bullying, harrassing and criticism of other riders. They weren't just doing it to the younger kids but to adults as well.
What kind of adult lets a teen get away with that behavior. I don't care if I am their parent or not. No kid is going to get away with that behavior around me. Some adults need to grow a set.
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    12-17-2011, 11:31 PM
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Green Broke
Sounds like our newest mare, at 16 years old. She's gotten away with throwing her fits for sixteen years. Now that I've learned to stay on by training a 2 yo, I can pretty well sit anything she tries. It's not you're a bad rider but the horse has problems in trainIng, be it from bad riders that don't correct. Don't let what they say bother you because it's probably them that caused it.
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    12-17-2011, 11:35 PM
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If you think you can deal with it next time and perhaps stay glued, then I would. If the horse demonstrates that she can toss you too man times (even though you get back on, which is BTW, commendable) she may start doing this sort of behavior more as a habit.

On the other hand, if you can work through it, then you will have taught her a good lesson and you will be the braver rider for it.
I think it's up to you and your teacher.

However, one other thought. A horse that pinns its' ears and puts it's head up in the air and buck MIGHT be in pain somewhere. Or might be on her cylcle.
     
    12-18-2011, 05:57 PM
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Yearling
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What kind of adult lets a teen get away with that behavior. I don't care if I am their parent or not. No kid is going to get away with that behavior around me. Some adults need to grow a set.
Several of us did confront them only to have the parents come out and cause more problems because they felt we were "picking on" their child. It didn't matter that the complaints were piling up from more than one person. The barn manager gave them a choice...take the month hit and come back acting like a human with some courtesy or leave permanently. I do have to admit they did come back with a better attitude, or, at least they don't advertise their contempt. They tend now to act like the adults don't exist and they quit picking on the younger riders. Still have no real manners to speak of....
     
    12-18-2011, 07:03 PM
  #9
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Originally Posted by tlkng1    
Several of us did confront them only to have the parents come out and cause more problems because they felt we were "picking on" their child..
Honestly, I'd get in their face too.

I pay **** good money to ride and keep a horse and I am not about to have it ruined by disrespectful teens and their self absorbed parents.
     
    12-19-2011, 03:11 PM
  #10
Weanling
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Originally Posted by Passion4Horses    
Well last night I got ...she was acting up from the very beginning (holding her head way up and pinning her ears) and she has a bad habit of trying to kick the other horses. She is normally riddeen by youger kids and doesn't get corrected so I think I was pissing her off because I wasn't letting her get away with anything. So we were trotting and another horse got to close to her and she tried to kick so I kicked her hard and smacked her and that sent her off in a bucking fit and I fell off. I got back on and then we cantered and were fine for a while and then she decided she was going to start galloping and I got her to slow down and then she bucked me off again, but I got back on and we just trotted cross rails for the rest of the lesson....So any opinions/ advice?
Oh and I am 15 btw if that matters.
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holding her head way up - So when she holds her head up you can correct by keeping outside rein steady and doing a squeeze/stop squeezing on inside rein while keeping hands low and using your legs to keep her moving forward.

doesn't get corrected - Same thing happened to me - horse tried to buck since I slapped him with palm of my hand after booting him to go forward (asked him nicely forst, when he ignored I booted him then he bucked). Big thing is to ask nice/ correct then ask nice again.

sent her off in a bucking fit If horse bucks slap on shoulder, prevent head from going too low (easier to buck) and disengage (think leg yield/crossing hind legs/etc) hindquarters so harder for horse to buck/rear/etc.

Listen to your instructor, not other riders, unless they are very knowledgable and are someone you respect as a rider.
     

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