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post #11 of 24 Old 08-03-2009, 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by ponyboy View Post
Um, I thought there were was more than one type of hackamore and that they are quite different in severity?

Well, there are hackamores -- and there are hackamores. And the two are about as different as night and day.
Let's simplify: a hackamore is essentially a halter equiped with some means of directing the horse without the use of a bit. The main differences between a hackamore and a bit and bridle are that a hackamore has something that goes over the nose and doesn't have anything that goes in the mouth.
The word "hackamore" is an Anglicized version of the Spanish word "jaquima" -- which, in turn, was derived from the Moorish word al-hakma -- and refers to a device that works off the nose, chin and poll. I don't think it's any accident that "jaquima" is so similar to the Spanish words "jaque" (to threaten or hold in check) and "jaqueca" (headache).
There are two basic types of hackamore: mechanical and non-mechanical. To my way of thinking, mechanical hackamores are generally rather harsh -- usually capable of inflicting severe pain and even permanent damage on the horse if not used correctly. Non-mechanical hackamores, on the other hand, tend to be fairly gentle -- often operating by simply allowing the rider to swing the horse's head to one side or the other. To illustrate, here are some examples of both types of hackamores....

Mechanical Hackamores
Mechanical Hackamore
Used with a curb chain (not shown). The long shanks act as a lever, causing the nose piece and curb chain to exert pressure on the nose and jaw. A hard pull on the reins can break the horse's jaw.
Stop-N-Turn hackamore
An extremely severe hackamore! Should only be used by an experienced rider with very gentle hands. Even a slight twitch of the reins can produce painful pressure on the jaw and nose.
Little "S" Horse
by Reinsman Inc.
The least harsh of the mechanical hackamores on this page. The rope nose piece and chain curb mean a bit more "give," but if the curb is tight, a hard pull on the reins could still injure the jaw.

A fairly gentle control; works by swinging the head to the side, and putting pressure on the nose when pulling back on the reins. Reins attach above the knot under the chin.
Side Pull halter
Arguably the most gentle hackamore on this page. Works like a regular halter, allowing the rider to swing the head to the side without pressure on the mouth, nose or jaw.non mechanical^^^
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post #12 of 24 Old 08-03-2009, 10:55 PM
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morgan - Always remember to post sources when you're quoteing from articles. It's copyright infringement otherwise!

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post #13 of 24 Old 08-04-2009, 01:14 AM Thread Starter
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Well none of those looked quite like Hailey's.

Originally Posted by ponyboy View Post
I've never been to a lesson barn where saddles were shared. They should not be. I wouldn't be riding there personally.
I haven't been to one which shares either.. but I have also never been to a lesson barn where I felt safer, or where the horses themselves were in as good conditions as these ones or where I actually made any real progress riding.
So, I am staying. haha.
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post #14 of 24 Old 08-08-2009, 12:32 AM
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I ride my horse in a hackamore and a couple of different bits. I believe that the hackamore is no more harsh then bits, but then again its how you ride and how you use your hands. If you hackamore is extremly tight on the nose and the chin you may run into problems.
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post #15 of 24 Old 08-08-2009, 08:24 AM
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Morgan is right, there are several kinds of hackamores out there, some being very gentle, some being very very harsh. With the range of severity/gentleness of bits AND hackamores, I don't really they're comperable at all.Some horse's just won't (or physically can't) tolerate a bit and are pretty happy with a hackamore. I know people who use them for their jumpers who are very very strong but so sensative they they don't do well with a stronger bit.
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Originally Posted by MacabreMikolaj View Post
morgan - Always remember to post sources when you're quoteing from articles. It's copyright infringement otherwise!
Was thinking same thing. Got to be careful about that stuff.

I personally, after having used one the other day, don't like them. They're kind of confusing. The hack I used was a two in one bit and hack. With ONE rein. Don't they need 2? It was confusing because I didn't WANT to pull on the horse's mouth, I wanted to use the nose. So it seemed like I was giving unclear signals :/

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Oh that's weird. The one I use has perfectly normal reins. It looks like a normal bridle but with a missing bit and a chain for the chinstrap
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Is it more like this?

This is an english Hackamore. The ones morgan posted were mechanical(german) and then, the western bosal & sidepull, of course.

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Yes thats exactly what it looks like. Same.... curb? is that what its called? and everything! haha
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post #20 of 24 Old 08-25-2009, 04:33 AM
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I used to use english hackamore with short shanks and my horse really liked it- he had mouth problems and he couldn't wear bit. Now I use a bit like this:
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