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    04-11-2012, 06:17 PM
Heavy on the forehand

What are some ways you can get a horse off the forehand?
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    04-11-2012, 06:37 PM
Depends onthe reason the horse I sheavy :)..if the horse is built downhill it is going to be difficult tolighten that front end. Now, that isn/t to say you can/t lighten it up some.

For the basics, try doing a lot of gait to halt transitions...walk to halt, trot to halt, canter to halt, concentrating on using your leg to push the horse into the bridle while creating an invisible wall with your hand. In other words, don't bring your hands forward when you ask for the halt. Keep the contact, sit back and sit deep, use leg and halt.
    04-11-2012, 06:42 PM
He's not really built downhill, he's pretty balanced.
    04-11-2012, 08:31 PM
It depends on how well you ride. You can do all the exercises under the sun, but if you don't ride them correctly, there will be no improvement.

Basically, millions of transitions each ride, between gaits and within gaits, changes of rein, spiralling in/out on a circle, teaching turn on the forehand, shoulder in.
There's no magical quick fix, you need to be able to ride the horse forward, and hold it up and together with your seat.
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    05-04-2012, 03:06 PM
I ride multiple horses in lessons, I know that every horse is different. The horse I ride that had trouble with being on the forehand was always moving slow, with her head down low. I really had to pick her head up, and ask her to give to the bit. To get her on the bit I bent her to the inside and pushed her onto the outside rein using the inside indirect rein and inside leg. Then she had her head up higher( not up super high, just normal now) and was giving to the bit. Next I asked her to pick up the speed a little. Once she picked up the speed to a normal pace I tightened my reins a little, and pushed her forward with my seat to round her out. After a little bit of that she was engaging her hind end, and off the forehand.
    05-04-2012, 03:10 PM
Ground poles, roll backs, backing, turns on the haunches.
    05-04-2012, 03:44 PM
Originally Posted by Kayty    
You can do all the exercises under the sun, but if you don't ride them correctly, there will be no improvement.
You took words out of my mouth. Transitions etc. helps tremendously, BUT if you know how to do it correctly (and yes, it takes time, sometime whole a lot).

OP, could you take some lessons on your horse with the good trainer? At least you'll get some professional opinion and suggestions on how to deal with it.
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    05-04-2012, 05:50 PM
I would deffinetly say Transitions, but also collect the horse. I ride a level horse who is lazy and on his forearm all the time.. if you collect them, they have to round themselves... and there fore takes them off their front legs. That horse I mentioned, he would always do that and also jump on him forearm, I would collect him every time I rode him. Now, he never is really on his forehand and he jumps really well! :) it takes time and patience, but keep working on it... it will help! :)
    05-05-2012, 09:10 AM
Excuse my confusion... but how does one collect a horse while it is on the forehand? And how do you make a horse collect in a way that makes it 'round itself'?
    05-05-2012, 10:59 AM
Originally Posted by Kayty    
Excuse my confusion... but how does one collect a horse while it is on the forehand? And how do you make a horse collect in a way that makes it 'round itself'?
Because loads of people here throw the word "collection" around without knowing what it means or knowing that it is the pinnacle of the training scale.

To them (particularly western riders) it just means "put the horse's head down".

Classic example of putting the cart before the horse:
if you collect them, they have to round themselves.
It's why I've stopped responding to threads like this. It's impossible to communicate when even the basic meaning of terms is not agreed upon.

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