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    02-26-2012, 09:13 PM
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Foal
Horse heavy into bridle, tips?

Within in the past few months I have been building up my horses muscles and fitness enought to be able to start working in a frame, or "on the bit" (except I ride in a hackamore). Everything was going really nicely, he was soft, quiet, and responsive. I was very impressed! I broke him in when I was 7 so we had a lot of problems before.

Then there was a period of a few weeks where he was only schooled about 4 times. He was worked daily, but I was either on the ground or we were out on a trail.

Now that I've put him back into work, he is very heavy into the bridle. I've tried doing a lot of pressure and release with my hands and legs, and I changed nothing that I did before. His athleticism is not the problem because I gradually brought him back to this and he is fit enough to do what I'm asking.

Any tips?
     
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    02-27-2012, 07:11 AM
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Green Broke
A few weeks can be enough.

I was always taight whatever time a horse had off, or slow time, it takes twice as long to build them back up.

It may be muscle, stiffness or avoiding work.

Have you had him checked over, made sure his saddle fit, teeth are in good order etc?

If its work, then I would say its him avoiding it, or a lack of muscle allowing him to go forwards enough to pick up the weight of the forehand and transfer it to the hind.

If he's on your hands too much, try lunging for a week in an outline, to help build him up, then the next week lunge one day, ride the next etc.

Out of curiosity, why do you ride in a bit, or a hackamore, and why don't you bring him round in a hackamore?
     
    02-27-2012, 08:33 PM
  #3
Foal
Thanks for your reply!

As I said in my post, he was never taken out of work, just out of schooling. I was still hacking him around and doing ground work with him every day. His muscles to do what I ask for schooling probably wore away a little, but I spent a few more weeks bringing him back to shape before I really asked for anything he was doing before.

My horse is definetly the type to avoid work, but today I acutally rode him in a different hackamore, a lighter one, and he was an absolute angel!

Not sure what you mean by "bring him round", but I do ride in hackamore. I think that problem that I was facing was the hackamore I was riding in has a really wide nose band, and this is the same concept for nylon halters vs. rope halters. A horse can lean into a wide nylon halter, but they cannot lean into a thin rope halter.

The new hackamore I put on him is thinner, and less harsh on his nostrils. I'm going to keep playing around with the two to see if I can firgure it out, and I'll try lunging him as well!

Thank you so much!
     
    02-28-2012, 06:34 AM
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Green Broke
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Originally Posted by haileyandbandit    
Not sure what you mean by "bring him round", but I do ride in hackamore. I think that problem that I was facing was the hackamore I was riding in has a really wide nose band, and this is the same concept for nylon halters vs. rope halters. A horse can lean into a wide nylon halter, but they cannot lean into a thin rope halter.

The new hackamore I put on him is thinner, and less harsh on his nostrils.
The reason a horse can lean on a wide nylon band is because the width of the band allows the pressure to be distributed over a greater surface area, hence making it less uncomfortable. The change in nosebands is not less harsh - a thinner noseband is going to be harsher than a thick one. All you have done is "bitted up" in a hack. It's the same as a bridle user saying "my horse is heavy in a snaffle, so I tried him in the curb and he was fine". It's not fixing the underlying issues causing him to be heavy, it's just putting a bandaid over the holes.
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    02-28-2012, 07:49 AM
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Foal
I see your point, but I think it may be a little different.

The wider hackamore I was using, was a mechanical hackamore, or a bitless bridle with shanks. The shanks on the hackamore provide leverage, just as the shanks on a curb bit do. When the reins are pulled, the crown of the bridle is pushed down on the horses poll, the nose peice is pushed against the horses nose and the chin strap applies pressure underneath.

The thinner hackamore I tried is a sidepull, so there are no shanks. I do see that a thinner one could be more severe than my mechanical one, but in this situation my mechanical one is more severe.

And as I said, I'm going to play around with the two to see if I can figure out what I was doing wrong. I would not say that I'm putting a bandaid over the holes.

Thanks for your reply!
     

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