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    01-10-2012, 07:40 PM
  #21
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to skyseteralangle

Sorry you had tough lesson. Not fun. Just remember the difficult ones probably teach us more than the good ones. I am sure you got more out of it than just frustration.
Tomorrow I have to start with a new trainer I don't know. I am not happy about it but maybe there is some learning to be found here too. Ugh
     
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    01-10-2012, 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Patriciasdream    
Sorry you had tough lesson. Not fun. Just remember the difficult ones probably teach us more than the good ones. I am sure you got more out of it than just frustration.
Tomorrow I have to start with a new trainer I don't know. I am not happy about it but maybe there is some learning to be found here too. Ugh
Yeah I did learn a lot.. I agree with you there :)

Well I hope this new trainer helps you along in your riding! Least you get saddle time :) That's the most important thing to remember! Hugs coming your way x
     
    01-11-2012, 09:47 PM
  #23
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Hmm..well don't worry about your position. Usually when you worry about it, that's when you mess up, so my advice is to just imagine your seat as "jello" and just moving with your horse like a wave almost. Just relax, and enjoy yourself! Just put your weight in your heels, because that is the key to good balance.

Speed wise, I had the same problem. One of my trainers suggested half halting first, and doing little squeezes. If he doesn't respond, being him right to a halt, and back him up. That'll gain you some respect, and he'll spend more time "thinking" about when you're going to say "whoa" instead of ignoring you.
     
    01-11-2012, 09:51 PM
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Hmm..well don't worry about your position. Usually when you worry about it, that's when you mess up, so my advice is to just imagine your seat as "jello" and just moving with your horse like a wave almost. Just relax, and enjoy yourself! Just put your weight in your heels, because that is the key to good balance.

Speed wise, I had the same problem. One of my trainers suggested half halting first, and doing little squeezes. If he doesn't respond, being him right to a halt, and back him up. That'll gain you some respect, and he'll spend more time "thinking" about when you're going to say "whoa" instead of ignoring you.
Alright I'll try it
     
    01-11-2012, 10:29 PM
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Alright I'll try it
Actually.. upon re-reading it.. I don't think a passive seat is a good idea. You need a driving seat.. but not a stiff seat. A passive seat means your horse gets a chance to break into a trot.. or if they slam on the brakes, you're more likely to go launching or slam on their backs.

A driving seat, paired with good stretchy relaxed legs, loose upper half, supple hips and ankles and shoulders.. will make a better canter.

I mean.. if you look at my recent cantering video (my 3rd time cantering) on the lunge, you will see when I find that sweet spot.. my arms are still but following without exaggeration, my hips follow, and my horse is happy. Then when I tense or get stiff.. it falls apart and my horse starts acting up (my poor horse lol)

I may not be a very amazing rider, nor that experienced in Dressage.. but I do know what the right thing feels like. So I'll have to disagree, respectfully of course :)
     
    01-12-2012, 04:55 PM
  #26
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Trauma of New Trainer :)

Hi everyone. Well my lesson with new trainer was good but frustrating at same time. I felt like I was starting out all over again. Old trainer used english reins with western saddle and allowed vocal cues (trot cantor clicks and whoa) and only allowed legs around the horse when trying to direct him.
New trainer uses englisn reins and saddle and a different type of tack and has me wrapping my legs (calfs) around the horse ALL the time and using pressure to direct. I am also not suppose to use vocal cues....only reins and leg pressure to direct horse into trot and cantor. So you can see what I mean about starting over on everything. By end of lesson I was trotting better but I think it will take forever to get back to cantoring and I was just starting to get the hang of it. :(
Guess it is all part of the process.
I did learn some more really good basics about balancing my seat, so that was a real plus. Now if I can just make it work for me.
     
    01-12-2012, 05:05 PM
  #27
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Woo that's great! :)

Yeah I probably shouldn't use my voice but since I don't know how to ask properly and my horse has no idea.. it kind of helps us both out.

You can't ask your coach if you can use vocal for a few tries and then be silent and ask? That would be a decent compromise. Since you are paying for lessons.. there should be some kind of grey area right?

I've heard that cantering makes the trot better.. and it's true! Also.. cantering makes the rider's muscles ache xD I've found that out recently hehe

How did you ride before.. with your legs not on the horse? English is more contact than western I've noticed. Legs on all the time, but you add a little pressure for a cue and keep them there. It has to do with having a secure seat on your horse, and being prepared to give cues without anyone seeing (refining aids) Least that's what I think.

Keep us updated :) I love hearing fellow canter-newbies and their successes! 4th time cantering today on the lunge and I did great :)
     
    01-12-2012, 07:27 PM
  #28
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Training Trauma lol

Oh I am so glad you had some good cantering moments today. Doesn't it feel good when you get the rythym? I miss cantering, hope to get back to it soon.

It is not that my legs were not on the horses side but in english you ride with your legs more securely against the horse. I was riding with a western saddle on arabs that were trained to respond to leg pressure. However, you did not hold your legs so securely against the side of the horse like you do in english. So it is a real change for me.
It is not better or worse just different and feels new and strange to me.
I will respect the way the trainer wants to teach and try to learn it her way. I can always go back to my own style once I have learned enough and am on my own horse.

Keep cantering it gives me hope....:)
     
    01-12-2012, 07:39 PM
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Keep cantering it gives me hope....:)
Oh that makes sense! Well I hope your instructor is thorough and helpful in how they explain things to you.

I will and I hope to get another video up Tuesday of me cantering my Xth time

You'll get there in no time, but I'm glad I'm having a positive affect on you :)
     

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