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post #21 of 29 Old 06-17-2010, 04:26 PM
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Not all of those pics are me, I'm on the black horse without stirrups. The other pics aren't me so I have no clue what saddle. And like I've said before my leg is better when I have stirrups but you can't see that cause I don't have recent pics of me with stirrups.
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post #22 of 29 Old 06-17-2010, 05:37 PM
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Not all of those pics are me, I'm on the black horse without stirrups. The other pics aren't me so I have no clue what saddle. And like I've said before my leg is better when I have stirrups but you can't see that cause I don't have recent pics of me with stirrups.
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Oh crap! I'm so sorry! I didn't realize the pics of you were the black horse. I reverse my previous post, but still say you're an athletic rider. Fix that lower leg so it's hugging the horse instead of gripping with your knee and you'll look great. Now that other rider...ew.

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It's fine. I should have been more clear about that. Yea, that was a a local schooling show, and most of the trainers that bring their riders to that show aren't great trainers. One of them has the nickname Bloody Mary to say the least.
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Besides it really effecting your riding and not being a functional form arching your back can cause you to really hurt your body. I was taught to do that at a young age and it carried over into my day to day life. I arched my back all the time and at 13 had to go get my back put back into place as I was so out of whack. I continued to have really bad lower back pains for two years and had to go to the chircopractor and a massage therapist.
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Besides it really effecting your riding and not being a functional form arching your back can cause you to really hurt your body. I was taught to do that at a young age and it carried over into my day to day life. I arched my back all the time and at 13 had to go get my back put back into place as I was so out of whack. I continued to have really bad lower back pains for two years and had to go to the chircopractor and a massage therapist.
Exactly. It's called hyper lordosis, or more simply put - sway back.

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post #26 of 29 Old 06-20-2010, 04:03 PM
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Your back is at the edge of beinging over arched in the pic. It could be flatter, but it isn't seriously flawed. So, when you say that with stirrups you arch more, that is a little concerning. I agree about the knees and the lower leg - you definitely need to get your lower leg more under control and focus less on the back for a bit. YOu also look like you might have some piano hands, or at the very least, you have a pretty serious break in your wrist. That may be because with your legs gone and your back arched, you are supporting yourself on your hands.

I used to do hunters, but with my instructor, backs were expected to be straight. I spent many a lesson riding with a crop down my back. Now I'm doing jumpers, and my trainer's trainer (who has done grand puissance and trains grand prix riders and horses, has us actually slump a little bit going up to the jump. Once you get the feeling, this is incredible at helping you stop jumping ahead, because you're all ready when the jump comes, so you don't have to make a big move to be in position. It also allows you to get out of the horses way faster, so that they can really snap their legs and back up. Still though, when in the air, the back is straight, not rounded or arched.

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post #27 of 29 Old 06-28-2010, 08:24 AM
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I always keep my shoulders back, and that usually results in a slightly arched back, with the exception of a few strides before a jump(I lean back, and apply leg) of course.

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post #28 of 29 Old 07-08-2010, 06:15 PM
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Here is my opion, neither is wrong every one has a diffrent riding style. Ive noticed pony kids tend to arch there back more (possibly to cover up what they CANT do with there riding) and win. Riders who do the Mclays have flatter backs and win as well, I personally rode with an Arched back in my short stirrup/novice days on ponies and WON about 5 or 6 year end awards. I ride with a less arched back and acctually feel like a better rider, I haven't competed in 2yrs so I can't say what the judges think of my unarched back. But there are plenty of things wrong the hunter/eq world that kids seem to think is okay b/c pros do it (rounding back, twisting for lead changes, turned hands) and i have no idea where im really going with this anymore but its just my opionion
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teafortwo- if someone wanted to ride with their toes straight down, body hunched over, arms way up in the air, leaning to the side... would you say they ride correctly and it's just "their riding style"? Sure, on a kind horse that rider might be able to stay on for a while but form fits function. we don't look a certain way to be "pretty", we do it b/c that position is the most effective and secure way to ride. Certain positions will vary within different disciplines, but you ride "correct" for a reason. Putting an arch in your back renders your back weak and ineffective. Can you still ride a course like that? sure. Will it be the best it can be? No.

Unfortunately pros aren't always the best example of proper form. Just b/c they do it doesn't mean it's correct. I say learn the basics properly.
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