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        06-30-2008, 04:46 PM
      #11
    Green Broke
    Just curious, why are you a 'forced' hunter?
         
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        06-30-2008, 05:05 PM
      #12
    Foal
    If I wanted to ride, it would have to be hunters. I live in Cleveland and there are no other disciplines that have even mediocre facilities within an hour of where we live. I could show jumpers if I wanted but I couldn't school it as all of the trainers have minimal knowledge. And they'd get annoyed if I reset the course for every lesson.

    Someone did find me a western lesson barn nearby. I was so shocked! Unfortunately my horse isn't trained western and I actually love my horse more than riding. At least I can take lessons there though
         
        06-30-2008, 05:24 PM
      #13
    Yearling
    I learned to jump in jumpers. As soon as I realized that hunters was based on opinion rather than performance...I avoided it at all costs. I know it has gotten better with the new scoring system...but still to much politics for me to bother with. Plus it seemed a bit repetitive...outside, diagonal, outside diagonal. Eegh not my thing...but to each his own.

    I think the new "derby" format is a bid to actually get hunters on the international scene more. We will see if it works or not.

    Plus I live in Texas. In hunters you have to get all foo-fooed up with the expensive, HOT jackets. In jumpers I can wear the polos.
         
        06-30-2008, 05:47 PM
      #14
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by hotreddun
    I learned to jump in jumpers. As soon as I realized that hunters was based on opinion rather than performance...I avoided it at all costs. I know it has gotten better with the new scoring system...but still to much politics for me to bother with. Plus it seemed a bit repetitive...outside, diagonal, outside diagonal. Eegh not my thing...but to each his own.

    I think the new "derby" format is a bid to actually get hunters on the international scene more. We will see if it works or not.

    Plus I live in Texas. In hunters you have to get all foo-fooed up with the expensive, HOT jackets. In jumpers I can wear the polos.
    exactly...
         
        06-30-2008, 09:02 PM
      #15
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by flywithoutwings
    If I wanted to ride, it would have to be hunters. I live in Cleveland and there are no other disciplines that have even mediocre facilities within an hour of where we live. I could show jumpers if I wanted but I couldn't school it as all of the trainers have minimal knowledge. And they'd get annoyed if I reset the course for every lesson.

    Someone did find me a western lesson barn nearby. I was so shocked! Unfortunately my horse isn't trained western and I actually love my horse more than riding. At least I can take lessons there though
    Most hunter trainers also do eq since they always have hunter and eq at the same shows, does that interest you at all?
         
        06-30-2008, 09:58 PM
      #16
    Foal
    Eh, it's a little better but eq. Is usually only one or two classes a day at the shows so it isn't the focus in lessons (i mean equitation is certainly critiqued but we don't do 'eq' courses). And, basically, its hunters but they are looking at you and not the horse. It can be fun but my horse isn't a good eq ride and when your barn mates own four horses specialized to coast through different disciplines, there isn't much of a prayer for me at any level above where I'm at (at which I currently get top three ribbons 60% of the time). It's rewarding, though, when people you don't know clap for you after eq, during hunters, they clap for the horse but in eq, they are clapping for you - a nice self-esteem boost
         
        06-30-2008, 10:16 PM
      #17
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by flywithoutwings
    eh, it's a little better but eq. Is usually only one or two classes a day at the shows so it isn't the focus in lessons (i mean equitation is certainly critiqued but we don't do 'eq' courses). And, basically, its hunters but they are looking at you and not the horse. It can be fun but my horse isn't a good eq ride and when your barn mates own four horses specialized to coast through different disciplines, there isn't much of a prayer for me at any level above where I'm at (at which I currently get top three ribbons 60% of the time). It's rewarding, though, when people you don't know clap for you after eq, during hunters, they clap for the horse but in eq, they are clapping for you - a nice self-esteem boost
    Eq and hunter is split about half and half at most of the shows I've been too. I think eq is much different that hunters, except at the very low level (mini stirrups, short stirrups, long stirrups). My friend bought an ex-Maclay so I know what you mean about horse being able to coast, but you still have to be able to execute the the rollback and long/short strided lines correctly. Ask your trainer to practice equitation courses, I'm sure they'd be willing to do it. I do hunters primarily, but my trainer makes us do eq courses all the time to keep the horses on their feet and listening to our aids.

    That being said, I don't know of any hunter trainers in my area that don't have both equitation and hunter riders...
         
        06-30-2008, 10:43 PM
      #18
    Foal
    Basically, everyone does both but focuses on hunters because that's where you get prizes and, and, well, actually I have no clue why - but they do. Most of the people I ride with (and I like to include myself in this category) are good riders who can ride an equitation course. On the flat we practice a lot of equitation stuff and if we ask we can throw rollbacks into courses or ask for an off number of strides in a line. It's just that they never set broken lines or bounces. The horses are all so good (and pricey!) that on show day they handle it in stride (sorry for the pun) after a morning tune up that reflects the course they will jump.
    I guess I value effectiveness over look. Here the look they want sacrifices effectiveness.
         
        07-01-2008, 12:08 AM
      #19
    Foal
    I love hunters. It just gives riders such a wonderful foundation. Plus, I don't think the atmosphere is what every one makes it out to be. I enjoy it!
         
        07-01-2008, 12:09 PM
      #20
    Foal
    It does vary a lot state-to-state and all
    One of the shows I saw in Colorado favored the horses who literally had their noses maybe a foot above the ground, weirdest thing I ever saw...
         

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