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  • Posting diagonal on shoulder fore
  • Why do we post on outside diagonal

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    12-03-2011, 08:11 AM
  #11
Weanling
You've gotten good advice so I just wanted to add support and tell you it took me a couple months to really get diagonals and post consistently on the correct one. Once it clicks, its hard to remember why it was confusing in the first place so you will get it in time :)
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    12-03-2011, 01:38 PM
  #12
Green Broke
I had to learn diagonals with my eyes closed. I couldn't get it any other way.
     
    12-04-2011, 12:23 PM
  #13
Weanling
I always listened to music when I learned mine. Synced the bass up with the posting. Now I sing to myself when I trot (8 years later....) :)
     
    12-22-2011, 03:22 AM
  #14
Foal
Rise and fall with the shoulder on the wall... after a few times you learn to feel them so you wont have to look down at your horses shoulder.... good luck
     
    12-22-2011, 11:58 AM
  #15
Yearling
When I was first learning to ride, I could not for the life of me get my diagonals. My trainer would get so frustrated with me. He would put bright colored tape on the horses shoulder so I could see it move better. It didn't help me really, but it may help you.

I'm a little dense so diagonals took awhile to click with me. My mom would cough whenever I was on the wrong diagonal at a show. Her helping me that way made me able to feel it better. But after awhile I just got it. To this day I'll check my diagonal when my mom coughs.

I would suggest just practice and have someone on the ground quiz you and see if you are on the correct diagonal or not. Everyone learns at different paces...just be patient, you'll get it.
     
    12-22-2011, 12:05 PM
  #16
Yearling
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Originally Posted by ErikaLynn    
I'm a little dense so diagonals took awhile to click with me. My mom would cough whenever I was on the wrong diagonal at a show. Her helping me that way made me able to feel it better. But after awhile I just got it. To this day I'll check my diagonal when my mom coughs.
Hahah! That's awesome.
     
    12-22-2011, 01:03 PM
  #17
Banned
All good answers. I just want to add that posting on the correct diagonal is not an english thing. It's a correct equitation and horsemanship thing to help the horse balance.

If you are posting the trot on ANY kind of saddle, you rise when the outside fore moves.

I always had trouble picking up the right diagonal. I started to rise when I sensed or saw the outside foreleg go fwd. By then it was too late, by the time I rose up/fwd the inside fore was moving up. One day I decide to start rising when the outside fore was coming back and boom, all of a sudden I had the correct timing. As by the time I started rising, the outside fore was already going fwd again.
     
    12-22-2011, 02:36 PM
  #18
Super Moderator
I don't know if anyone mentioned on this thread the reason for posting on diagonals? I mean, WHY do we rise with the outside shoulder's forward swing?

Ok, here's what I learned;
When we are on a circle (which is the only time being on the "correct" diagonal matters) , as the outside fore is going forward, the outside hind is pushing off and moving backwards (they move apart from each other). At the moment that the outside hind is pushing off the ground, it make the horse's hip be higher. If the rider goes up right at the horse is pushing off , this both takes advantage of that push and makes it easier for the horse, by not inhibiting it's full movement. On a circle, the outside legs must move farther than the inside, so rising up with the outside push makes sense.

This is what I was told. Fact? I dont' know. Heck, half the stuff we learn is what we are told by someone else. But I know that it usually feels better when posting on the correct diagonal, certainly when going around a circle.
On a straight line, I dont' think it matters.
     

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