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    01-03-2013, 08:53 PM
  #31
Trained
Ha, I probably could.....well, maybe not no more, age is creeping up on me lol, so now it's more taking care of mine and,when given a chance, teach some of the old school stuff
     
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    01-03-2013, 09:10 PM
  #32
Weanling
I had a very strict riding instructor when I was a child riding at a German based riding school . He terrified me. Had me in tears once after a lesson but I vowed never to let that happen again. I learned a lot but I was also afraid to ask questions. I now have a more approachable instructor and have much more success as I am not afraid to ask questions. This may be more the case as I am an adult and have less of a fear of making mistakes as I now know we learn more when we do make those mistakes and how to correct them. Best of luck!
     
    01-03-2013, 10:58 PM
  #33
Green Broke
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One of my pet peeves is riding academies that over-mount and under-train their lesson animals. I ran a tiny riding academy for 10 years and used my own horses. My lessons were no larger than 5 students at a time, and I prided myself that I didn't endanger ANY of them. These were also horses that were routinely ridden at CW Reenactments, under saddle with cannon fire and the riders shot off of their backs, as well. They were calm and responsive.
My advice is to get a refund for lost riding time and locate a better place to take lessons, one that respects you. You have every right to want to pay for a safe ride and improve your skills.
Your horses never came out of their stalls fresh?? We have some of the most bombproof packer school horses known to man that wouldn't bat an eye at some crazy things but sometimes (especially in the winter) they get a wild hair. Last wk a very sweet very kind little pony (who normally carts around the most beginner of jumpers) came down to the ring with "happy feet". I wasn't told she hadn't been ridden in a wk.. And this very scenario happened. I let her handle it for a bit, but my student (who's actually quite good) was having trouble and the horse was trying to be good but simply had too much energy and I could see an explosive situation coming up. I made her get off. Threw her on the line for a bit to get the bucks out and then put her back on. For the most part I try to have my students work out a lot of their own problems. But sometimes they simply aren't at that level yet or like this just wasn't safe so I hop on or have more advanced rider get on. However, I always put my student back on. Even if it means I run a little late and all they do is trot a few laps around. I want them to always feel like we ended on a good note. Don't take it personally. Your instructor most likely acted out of safety and that's what you want in a good instructor. If you have any question you should always ask.
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    01-04-2013, 07:51 AM
  #34
Foal
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Your horses never came out of their stalls fresh?? We have some of the most bombproof packer school horses known to man that wouldn't bat an eye at some crazy things but sometimes (especially in the winter) they get a wild hair. Last wk a very sweet very kind little pony (who normally carts around the most beginner of jumpers) came down to the ring with "happy feet". I wasn't told she hadn't been ridden in a wk.. And this very scenario happened. I let her handle it for a bit, but my student (who's actually quite good) was having trouble and the horse was trying to be good but simply had too much energy and I could see an explosive situation coming up. I made her get off. Threw her on the line for a bit to get the bucks out and then put her back on. For the most part I try to have my students work out a lot of their own problems. But sometimes they simply aren't at that level yet or like this just wasn't safe so I hop on or have more advanced rider get on. However, I always put my student back on. Even if it means I run a little late and all they do is trot a few laps around. I want them to always feel like we ended on a good note. Don't take it personally. Your instructor most likely acted out of safety and that's what you want in a good instructor. If you have any question you should always ask.
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I like that but I do believe students should always ask in a respectful tone. Not in a sullen, who do you think you are I paid for this lesson, tone. I see a lot of people who want a 90 day wonder in a horse and Olympic quality ride from a few lessons.
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    01-04-2013, 07:55 AM
  #35
Foal
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Ha, I probably could.....well, maybe not no more, age is creeping up on me lol, so now it's more taking care of mine and,when given a chance, teach some of the old school stuff
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    01-18-2013, 04:37 PM
  #36
Trained
Upnover, no, my horses lived in a turnout with a shelter. REGARDLESS, it all came down to management. I scheduled my best trained students for my first lessons, if it was Saturday, and I had 5 lessons to teach. They had a fresh horse, a "challenge," if you will, and I let them work for practice hours, so they would often stick around and help me prep for my other lessons. Providing riding lessons is a LOT of work. I found a niche in my community bc I noticed that stables would do lessons for a few years, then stop, then start again. I was consistant.
It's just like managing your horses by making it difficult for them to be hurt. For instance, everyone (now, horses in my backyard with stalls and a barn) stay inside when it's icy. All of my horses are used to me mucking out the stall while they are inside of it, bc of practice doing this. Honestly, I don't teach NOW bc I am concerned about a lawsuit should anyone get hurt, despite the fact that I could teach with my 14yo mare. Isn't anyone at these stables where the students are endangered by horses that cannot be stopped concerned about this?!?
DH, an attorney, is used to long winded clients and sometimes irate ones, mostly those that are assigned, "overflow" SA Criminal cases. It comes with running a business. Customers are customers and it comes with the territory. You LEARN how to give them what they believe they paid for, and keep them happy. Friendly, courteous and accomodating. Some call it "manners." Even if the customer ISN'T mannerly.
Lessons are not supposed to duplicate the backyard rider training on their own, where you get thrown then get back on. Yeah, you can learn to ride this way. Funny, the best horseman, those that are completing nationally/internationally, don't ask their children to learn that way. They train their children to ride the safest horses/ponies and compete in lead line classes first. Not a lot of children get thrown or hurt this way. I can't believe that it makes you a better horseman to have an injury in a lesson that keeps you out of the saddle for 3 months. =/
     
    01-18-2013, 10:09 PM
  #37
Weanling
The question is why be embarrassed, or have hurt feelings? No time for emotion when learning to train. It wont be the first time, nor the last, that another rider can help save your butt (and the horse's mind). And you OBVIOUSLY did know WHY....you stated all the reasons! (But perhaps you don't understand how far south those elements can go?)

And omg, I have seen a top (international trainer) tell George Morris to get off, and then ride the horse. Or Willi Schultheis tell multiple olmypic riders to get off, and do a movement, and then replace the rider. Ideally a rider asks for help for the good of the horse, but sometimes it is simply easier to put a more educated rider on to solve the problem and then put the other rider back on. It won't be the first time, nor the last. We are not in this for our egos, or to serve us; riding is for the training of the horse.

What did you LEARN while watching? What did you change when you got back on? Where you watching HOW the other rider got calm? Or were you just upset, and learned nothing from the experience? One learns to ride by riding, but learns to train most time by watching how others get success!

First kudos to your teacher for making sure you and the horse were safe. That is a wise person who puts you (and the horse) first.

The further question is why the horse could not listen to your aids. Where you tense because he was fresh? You have to create relaxation in yourself to minimize tension, not just do more exercises. That is a difficult lesson to learn, to be relaxed even when the horse is on the muscle. The greater tension (on your part) reveals itself in the bouncing, the inability to get a transition (although I would not even be asking if the horse could not be relaxed in the other gaits (starting with walk), and an appropriate tempo. Where you pulsing the aids, or merely holdinggggg?

Imho this was a good learning experience if you take it that way. From the comments about time on the horse, I don't think you saw the chance for learning.
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    01-18-2013, 11:29 PM
  #38
Trained
If you were paying for a lesson, you should have been put on a horse that was at your level. Maybe the trainer hasn't taught you enough to know what level you are on, but it sounds like you were way over horsed. If this kind of thing continues to happen, I would find a better stable.
     

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