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post #1 of 33 Old 08-24-2010, 09:17 PM Thread Starter
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Its not fair!!

i dont know about you other people but i think it is SO unfair to not notice pinto horses in a hacking class just because of their colour!!!!
I have a pretty pinto mare and the judge never notices her!!
what does everyone think of this??
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post #2 of 33 Old 08-24-2010, 09:21 PM
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that is very annoying. I dont know about where your at but in america its getting beter.
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post #3 of 33 Old 08-24-2010, 09:23 PM
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I definitly think its un fair, but if you guys do your best and work hard then one day you will be noticed. It just means you will have to work way harder to be better and stand out from the rest.

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post #4 of 33 Old 08-25-2010, 02:48 AM
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this is why i don't hack!
if you don't own a fat over feed round butted pony wth stick legs that it jammed up in a double bridle then you won't get a ribbon. i took my eventer in show hunter class, had to do an inhand gallop to a stop and a walk in on the long rein, my horse inhanded perfect and stopped walked in on the buckle relaxed, cantered correct lead, he's a solid thoroughbred. this ugly morgan with a bad additude that didn't inhand gallop, didn't canter on the correct lead and the "long rein" was held "long" with the rider putting the rein to her knees on a tight rein, she won! the horse wansn't relaxed and wouldn't stand in line and was pinning it's ears back at everything! if THAT horse was to event, this rider wouldn't get far.
unfortunatly, hacking isn't like dressage, your judge on looks and personal opinion of the judge. the judges might not like pintos or paints or arabs or standardbreds. if you want real results, do dressage, you'll get marked on your work not on your horses looks.

are you from the South West, WA?? you look like your around the perth suburbs.
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Folks, sorry for dumb question, but what "hacking classes" are? We have dressage, jumping, hunters, eq shows around here, but I don't remember seeing any "hacking" shows (although I didn't look specifically).

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Folks, sorry for **** question, but what "hacking classes" are? We have dressage, jumping, hunters, eq shows around here, but I don't remember seeing any "hacking" shows (although I didn't look specifically).

There is road hack and pleasure hack for instance.
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There is road hack and pleasure hack for instance.
Spyder, I looked it up in google, but still confused. What's the difference between the hacking and low level dressage then?
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Read up exactly what the judge is looking for in these types of classes, go to a couple shows and watch. Make a note based upon the criteria of whatever governing body you have, says what kind of horses should place and make your own judgement. Stick around, listen to how the judge places the horses. If your list and the judges list don't match up, approach the judge after the show, tell them you weren't riding but interested in learning why they placed the horses the way they did.

Most judges are really nice, and super knowledgeable and are more then happy to impart their know-how on others.

You'll find that 99% of the judges actually know what they are looking for, they are color blind so to speak when it comes to judging, meaning that they see color as not part of the reason why they chose a horse (as in its all about quality of gait, suitability, obediance, cleanliness, before its ever about.. whose pony has the best color).

You'll always find judges you don't agree with and don't show under them, then you'll have nothing to complain about.

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Spyder, I looked it up in google, but still confused. What's the difference between the hacking and low level dressage then?
I never showed in the class myself but a show I went to many times had a hack division.

Mainly it is somewhat like a pleasure class except the road hack may be required to put out a better level of difference in type of gait such as lengthened. The horse will be more in the bridle compared to the pleasure version.

In England the judges will actually select some horse and ride them themselves.

Hack divisions are more popular in the UK and tend to look more dressagish compared to the NA version looking a bit more hunterish.

Now the above is not from any rule book, just an observation from me.
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I never showed in the class myself but a show I went to many times had a hack division.

Mainly it is somewhat like a pleasure class except the road hack may be required to put out a better level of difference in type of gait such as lengthened. The horse will be more in the bridle compared to the pleasure version.

In England the judges will actually select some horse and ride them themselves.

Hack divisions are more popular in the UK and tend to look more dressagish compared to the NA version looking a bit more hunterish.

Now the above is not from any rule book, just an observation from me.
Thanks for explaining!

It does sound interesting (especially the fact judge can get on to ride). I may look if we have anything like that around to just come out and watch.
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