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    09-20-2012, 04:46 PM
I really strongly suggest working with a trainer to get her working through the back and rib cage correctly :) while you may be doing leg yields, a half pass is very advanced and not many people do it correctly without guidance from a great coach. Isolating haunches and shoulders in yields is fantastic.
I would really come off jumping for a while to get basics down pat - I guarantee you it will only help your jumping, it will not hinder it :)
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    09-20-2012, 04:46 PM
I would worry about my horses long term health from jumping so young than getting out of practice. My mare is 8 and we have just started popping over small things. We have a ways to go before attempting to canter to her next jump. Not saying you should wait that long, just saying they will learn and remember however old. My first jumper was a pony horse from the race track who was over 10 when we got him. Nicest little hunter and natural jumper.

I would want to correct the problems she has now. Picking up correct leads, drop changes then flying changes, relaxing her neck and rounding, accepting the bit, rating, and going the direction you are looking. For eventing, you need to practice for the boogers on the cross country course. The astro turf, the lattice, going through water, body conditioning. And of course dressage!
    09-20-2012, 04:59 PM
I have weekly lessons with my trainer and I don;t know what I would do without her :) She does flying changes (most of the time), she does water and I've yet to find a jump that makes her back off. She is very smart, so I have a hard time keeping her interested when we have to work on the boring stuff. Half pass is still at the walk, but it's getting there. I have really been working on keeping her supple on both sides. Going in a straight line I can take a little inside bend, a little outside bend and then straight. This has helped keep her on the bit and working with her mind. Just refining the skills and we will be good for novice/training dressage test :)
    09-20-2012, 05:00 PM
All jumping is is stride control. You can't successfully jump if you can't control the length of the stride. A horse can take a jump one of three ways:

1. In stride
2. Long
3. Short

A horse in a true frame and balance will be able to take the jump any of these three ways and still jump up and into your hands, have a nice bascule and jump from his haunches.

A horse that is unbalanced and not in a true frame will lose his rhythm if he has to take it long or short (get faster, break stride, jump flat, etc...)

Your mare isn't giving you her back what so ever at the canter, and when you say you feel like you are grinding into her back when you sit the canter, this is why. She's bracing against you, which is what most OTTBs do. I would ride in a deep two, and ask for inside flexion, outside flexing, inside flexion, outside flexion...until you feel her soften her mouth and back. Reward her by letting your reins out a bit and let her reach into your hands. Once she feels soft, slip into a deep three and keep your butt in the saddle and let it move forwards and backwards with her gait but not up and down. If someone put a cold hand on your back, you would hollow it. This is what your mare is doing. Your goal is to keep her back soft so you don't make her hollow it away from you when you sit the canter. Do these exercises with ground poles at the trot and canter as well, if she is in a true frame and ready to lengthen or shorten her stride she will be able to take the poles in-stride, long or short with no change in the quality of trot or canter. This will make your ride much better. She seems to really enjoy jumping, so I wouldn't worry too much about starting all over again.

Plus, jumping is mostly flatwork with some obstacles in between. If you don't have nice flatwork, you won't have nice jumping.
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    09-20-2012, 05:01 PM
I will add though, I don't think its a bad thing to incorporate poles or small jumps/ mostly Xs into your flat work. Ime, jumping will help improve the canter so so much
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    09-20-2012, 08:31 PM
An example of how much she loves to jump- I was told by the BO today that she Jumped a 4ft+ fence out of her field, then spun around and jumped back into the field. She is 4..... Crazy mare
    09-21-2012, 09:21 AM
Well she should have no problem remembering how to jump after a few months off.

There is just so much you could be working on with her, without stress of excess jumping at such a young age.

We have an ex Olympic warmblood jumper at our barn named Elton. Elton is in his 20's and his legs are so broken down. He has lumps and bumps everywhere. What they are, I'm not sure but he has to have two stalls in order to be able to move around properly. After seeing him, and another who's back fetlocks? Were "broken down", I would just want to preserve my horse's health for the long run and take it slow. That's just what I personally would do if she were my horse. Especially because she needs so much work on the flat. JMHO
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    09-21-2012, 09:25 AM
I have a horse who is 23yo and has been jumping since he was 4yo. He is sound and still jumps and has never had his hocks injected =]
    09-21-2012, 09:30 AM
That is wonderful to hear! Maybe poor Elton was just unlucky. But it is horrible to see him hobbling at the barn. Just found him online. He is 26.
    09-21-2012, 09:35 AM
If he was an olympic level horse im sure he has getting a lot of maintenance [ie supplements, injections, etc] while he was riding at that level. He probably does not get those things anymore and his hard work has caught up to him.

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