But some horses are 100% perfect on the flat and then as soon as you throw jumping into the mix they get quick and rude, and how do you fix the issue on the flat if it's not there? My gelding was like that, is STILL like that at times and has apparently always had a tendency to get a little bit quick in his excitement. He is a horse that needs to be ridden every single stride; can't just let him coast because he doesn't coast, he builds and gets faster. I was fully aware of all this when I bought him, I just didn't know what his previous owner meant.
Speeding up and quitting listening ARE essentially the same thing, horses should go at the speed the RIDER dictates within their gaits... I taught my boy to WP jog and have been working on teaching him to lope, because it's amazingly effective to bring him back to a jog or when cantering a very slow canter to settle him and remind him he DOES have to listen. Transitions between and within gaits are amazing for reminding them of that.
We don't know the OP, we don't know what the horse is like on the flat. Considering OP isn't asking for advice for flatwork, I can only imagine that either he's not a problem, or OP doesn't realise that he's dictating the speed.
Last time mine took off and refused to listen was just yesterday, he was feeling fresh to begin with and I threw jumping (and a Swedish oxer, which I hadn't done with him before) into the mix. I am happy to say I rode out a nice big buck, got him back under control, settled him down at walk for a ways, and then popped him over a little cross a couple of times... still fresh and quick (but under control), so I took him to the round pen and did groundwork with him to remind him who was the boss. Back out to the jump paddock, popped him over the vertical-Swedish oxer double again, and he was perfect :)
My way works pretty well with "I'm excited so I ain't gonna listen". My boy gets like that sometimes... it's nothing to do with his training, or even his breed (he is an anglo arab but doesn't tend towards overexcitability overmuch), it's just "horse moments" that ALL of them have to some degree. My horse happens to be able to flip from perfect to a nightmare and back again in the space of a second. My theory as to why he does it is that he's trying so hard to be good and he has moments when he just can't any more. Has his moment, and then chills out again and is perfect. He knows what I'm asking him to do, but sometimes his brain is so fried from doing it for me that he just can't keep doing it. He's a real honest horse, I could depend on him to look after a 3yo, but I strongly suspect most of that is training. He has a real hot, spooky, stupid streak in him, and HAS been made dangerous by poor riding in the past. I suspect he copes with fear that he'll again be a victim of it, and copes, and copes, and copes, until he can cope no longer.
Last edited by blue eyed pony; 07-11-2012 at 02:05 AM.