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    03-24-2012, 07:09 AM
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Just had the BEST lesson!

Ok so I have a 14.2 new forest pony called Rascal. I've had him for coming up 2 years now and when I got him he was completely unschooled. I've had him at various yards and my last one was dressage yard where I worked for lessons I stayed there for about a year before deciding we weren't really improving and found a new yard. Now this yard has two people who event and both are extremely knowledgable one of them offered to give me lessons if I helped him at competitions. This was my first lesson today and it was so amazing!! I have never got Rascal to work in a proper outline as I'd never really done it before and neither had he and I was beginning to think it was some kind of cryptic thing everyone but me could do. But today Matt explained it in such a way I just got it! It was the most amazing feeling to be able to feel him go soft in my hands and start to come round and over his back it was so good I have a couple of pictures but bear in mind that this was a first for both of us! I just wanted to share this because I'm so happy and anyone else having difficulties with this kind of thing, don't worry! You just need it explained in the right way and actually, it's pretty easy!!

So here me and Rascal earlier today:
     
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    03-31-2012, 02:45 AM
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Hi, I was just wondering if you could tell me what he taught you differently? Im having similar issues and need help!!! Thanks and GREAT JOB!
     
    04-01-2012, 07:23 AM
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Basically at first he got me to pull my hands towards my stomach and rascal started to back up which he said was fine then as soon as Rascal gave to the pressure at all I released a bit to let him know he got it right this was all done at the halt until Rascal had gotten the idea then we went forward into walk basically what I was teaching him is that having his head down like that and giving to the bit is a nice place to be because when he gives I release and then once they've figured that out you can push them into the contact and make them step under as you can see in the first photo he started to track up perfectly unlike the 2nd photo which was taken earlier in the lesson once they learn that it's a nice place to be they start doing themself without you having to do anything Rascal even started to put himself on the bit at the end of 1 session I hope I explained it fully enough :)
     
    04-02-2012, 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by JessXxX    
once they've figured that out you can push them into the contact and make them step under as you can see in the first photo he started to track up perfectly unlike the 2nd photo which was taken earlier in the lesson once they learn that it's a nice place to be they start doing themself without you having to do anything Rascal even started to put himself on the bit at the end of 1 session I hope I explained it fully enough :)
I don't know.. personally he looks better to me in the 2nd photo. His spine is up and beginning to round, he's starting to tuck his tummy in, and his neck is relaxed but slightly curved. In the first photo he's very hollow, or how I like to call it: banana shaped. Maybe I'm missing something?

But wonderful that something clicked for you!
     
    04-02-2012, 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Skyseternalangel    
I don't know.. personally he looks better to me in the 2nd photo. His spine is up and beginning to round, he's starting to tuck his tummy in, and his neck is relaxed but slightly curved. In the first photo he's very hollow, or how I like to call it: banana shaped. Maybe I'm missing something?

But wonderful that something clicked for you!
Actually yeah the more I look at it I can see your right I just thought that in the 1st photo he was tracking up more and was directly on the vertical but in the second one isn't he slightly over bent? I really don't know, as you can tell I'm still very new to this whole dressage thing having ridden unschooled ponies all my life xD thanks!
     
    04-02-2012, 08:18 AM
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Actually yeah the more I look at it I can see your right I just thought that in the 1st photo he was tracking up more and was directly on the vertical but in the second one isn't he slightly over bent? I really don't know, as you can tell I'm still very new to this whole dressage thing having ridden unschooled ponies all my life xD thanks!
Yes that's probably due to your hands being really low.. he really had nowhere else to go. At that moment, did he feel willing and giving or was he kind of resisting and pulling/heavy?

Sorry didn't mean for this to turn into a critique..
     
    04-02-2012, 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Skyseternalangel    
Yes that's probably due to your hands being really low.. he really had nowhere else to go. At that moment, did he feel willing and giving or was he kind of resisting and pulling/heavy?

Sorry didn't mean for this to turn into a critique..
No! No! Don't be sorry I'm willing to listen to any advice or critique! It's actually really helpful cos then at least I know my faults instead of making the same mistakes. I don't remember exactly what he felt like right then but I know that it was kinda up down up down interms of him pulling or feeling heavy in my hands rather than soft. My instructor did say I needed to hold my outside hand higher and my inside hand was too low but that was because my instructor told me to keep it on my knee because I was trying to get him to bend and he's extremely stiff on the right side even my old trainer struggled to get him to bend to the right at first but yes I see what you mean I'l try and work on it :) thank you very much! If you see anything else I'm doing wrong please let me know :)
     
    04-02-2012, 08:33 AM
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I was trying to get him to bend and he's extremely stiff on the right side even my old trainer struggled to get him to bend to the right at first but yes I see what you mean I'l try and work on it :) thank you very much! If you see anything else I'm doing wrong please let me know :)
A way I loosen my horse's neck (he's stiff too) is I pretend the rein is a key.. and I turn it in the lock of a door. Meaning thumb starts out on top.. turn your wrist to face up and your thumb out away from the horse. The rule of thumb is as you pull back a maximum of an inch with your right hand, and "turn the key," you ease up on your right hand (bring it slightly forward so your horse has room to turn without running into the opposite rein.) Keep your left hand turned until he stops being stiff to that side.
A good sign is no tension in the rein but your horse flexes willingly. As soon as he does, slowly turn your right hand back so the thumb is on top. Start "turning the key" with your left hand, easing up with your right hand, until he is flexing.

It will take a few times. I usually make it part of my warm up before I even begin to ride, at the halt. Then I practice it on the long rails of the arena or space I'm in.

I hope that helps. Stiff necks are hard to unlock without a lot of patience and gentle easing. You can also do it on the ground too :)
     
    04-02-2012, 08:45 AM
  #9
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Ok thanks I'll work on that! Thank you so much I'm going to start doing carrot stretches with him to :)
     
    04-02-2012, 05:45 PM
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ok thanks I'll work on that! Thank you so much I'm going to start doing carrot stretches with him to :)
You're welcome :) He'll get it with time, but you're well on your way!
     

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