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    01-18-2012, 11:58 AM
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Foal
Just started lessons.. am I being rushed?

Hello everyone! Iím new on here, and am in need of some advice :) I'm sorry if this turns into a long post! I recently started up lessons after not being on a horse for 10 years. Iíve had three lessons so far (one hour once a week). I really like my instructor but Iím not sure if sheís pushing me too fast or not.

I started riding when I was 7 and was regularly taking lessons until I was about 9, and only sporadically when I was 10. I was able to walk, trot and canter (I believe only on the lunge), and trot over cross rails. The last time I rode was a trail ride on my 11th birthday.

During my first lesson three weeks ago my instructor only had me walk (sometimes in two point). She noticed that I was a little nervous and wanted me to get re-acclimated to being on a horse. My second lesson got off to a rough startÖ I began on the same horse as my first lesson but I was only on him for about a minute when he got spooked and bucked me off. My instructor decided to have me ride a different horse and was able to get me walking and post trotting. Unfortunately because I had to groom/tack up the new horse we didnít spend much time in the ring.

Last week I had my third lesson. For most of it she had me walking and trotting, and then towards the end she surprised me by saying she wanted me to jump one of the small cross rails. She told me that she either has her students learn to canter or to jump first. I was extremely nervous and the first two attempts the horse refused the jump (not his fault, he really was just picking up on my hesitation). The third try I was able to jump. Granted, Iím really happy that Iím jumping but Iím wondering if sheís starting me too early. She knows I have previous experience but I think she has more faith in my abilities than I do. I really like her but Iím just confused as to why Iím already jumping on my third lesson! Any thoughts are appreciated!
     
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    01-18-2012, 12:04 PM
  #2
Yearling
The jumping part seems a little fast, but when I started lessons a couple of years ago, I had never ridden.. and the lessons were spaced like 2-3 weeks apart.. first lesson I walked, 2nd lesson I trotted, 3rd lesson I loped.. believe me I couldnt even tack up a horse myself without help.. so I felt really rushed.. now in new place lessons the most we have been doing is trotting and starting to work on loping and that's after a few months of lessons.. and new groundwork lesssons and such
     
    01-18-2012, 12:06 PM
  #3
Started
IMO, that's a little unsafe but that's just her opinion on how good she thinks you are. Maybe you're better than you think you are?

The rule my instructor has is that there's no jumping (I don't do English anyways) until you can gallop properly..so things are a bit different where I take lessons but I'm glad for it..she makes me feel really safe, I couldn't imagine being rushed into things like that.

I think you should talk to her if you're feeling rushed, tell her you need more work on posting, cantering, whatever you think you still need to work on. I doubt she will have a problem with it..I mean you are paying her :)
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    01-18-2012, 12:17 PM
  #4
Green Broke
You had me at...
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Originally Posted by BrinkofSunshine    
I began on the same horse as my first lesson but I was only on him for about a minute when he got spooked and bucked me off.
In our PC world of don't hurt feelings and "you have to understand___" vis a vis a disobedient animal, let me be plain: CHANGE STABLES.

I taught lessons for 10 years. I couldn't have kept horses that unseated beginners or else I wouldn't have had any students. That was in the 1980's. It doesn't matter if the horse spooked or jumped forward, a beginner's lesson horse HAS to be calm and reliable, no spooking, NEVER bucking or rearing...EVER. The best beginner lesson horses have to be pushed to move, and that helps a beginning rider to learn how to cue. Subtle cues are for more experienced riders, you see.
Yes, I had a few students take falls. MY horses would stop the few times this happened, and wait for the rider to remount, as it SHOULD BE. Only one fall occurred on the flat and that was bc I had a very nervous rider who insisted that she would lose her balance at the trot...and she was right. My horse stopped after she fell, and she had a bruise on her bottom.
There are a lot of accidents that can happen with riding horses. They generally come through them unscathed. We, on the other hand break when they happen. DON'T make any excuses for the stable or the horse.
Watch lessons at other places and see how the horses behave and how the instructor treats students. Then...move. =D
     
    01-18-2012, 12:23 PM
  #5
Foal
Agree with Corporal, when you begin riding you need a safe horse so that you can build up your confidence and feel comfortable. She probably shouldnt of been using that horse for a beginner.

You can always try a different stable and see if they're approach is more appealing to you.
     
    01-18-2012, 12:28 PM
  #6
Green Broke
I would agree. If the horse spooked while you are taking beginner lessons then a/ the horse was clearly not a beginners horse and b/ if the horse is spooking how is that supposed to build your confidence?

I'd shop around for a new stable. It could be that the horse just had a scare but thts one mistake too many for a beginner. I'd shop. See if you like anything better. If not, stick to this barn. If so, switch. :)
Good luck!
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    01-18-2012, 12:31 PM
  #7
Trained
I think that the jumping is a little too soon - IMO. Not because you can't do it, but because I think you aren't ready. I believe that a rider should learn how to walk, trot, canter competently, balanced and in control. Where they are able to remain balanced, solid and functional in their tack during all 3 gaits.

Then, when they are able to do that in a full seat and a light 3point seat - then they can merge to jumping. Before I would start showing my Students fences, I would have them work over Trot Poles and Cavaletti's - when they show ability, confidence and functionality over those, I would then start to introduce Xrails and fences.

I know that jumping is fun, enjoyable and a thrill/rush - but I think that many Coaches today, are skipping a lot of important education that riders need to obtain on the flat before they start jumping - because afterall, jumping is an extension of our dressage/flatwork.

I think too many Coaches today, rush and get ahead of the game with their students.

With the "Getting Bucked Off" scenario - while that is unfortunate, and I am sorry that it happened, but I think incidents like that help build/create a more solid rider, to that they can be more prepared for incidents like that. Without getting dumped, falling off - we don't learn, we can't grow, we cannot experience what we need to experience, to become more solid, functional, confident riders.

Yes, I agree that this horse is not a Beginner's Horse, and yes, it can shake and deter new riders who are merging into the sport. Yes, getting bucked off is scary and it can shake the confidence in riders. I think that is unfortunate and of course I would want that to be avoided - but there is also a plus side to it. I don't want that to sound aweful - but if I never flew off the front end of my horse, or if I have never been dumped, I would not of learnt that I need to keep my upper body at the verticle, I would never of learnt how to obtain a deeper seat, longer leg, solid lower leg.

The more you ride "imperfect" horses, the more you learn.
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    01-18-2012, 12:37 PM
  #8
Foal
Quote:
Originally Posted by Corporal    
You had me at...
In our PC world of don't hurt feelings and "you have to understand___" vis a vis a disobedient animal, let me be plain: CHANGE STABLES.

I taught lessons for 10 years. I couldn't have kept horses that unseated beginners or else I wouldn't have had any students. That was in the 1980's. It doesn't matter if the horse spooked or jumped forward, a beginner's lesson horse HAS to be calm and reliable, no spooking, NEVER bucking or rearing...EVER. The best beginner lesson horses have to be pushed to move, and that helps a beginning rider to learn how to cue. Subtle cues are for more experienced riders, you see.
Yes, I had a few students take falls. MY horses would stop the few times this happened, and wait for the rider to remount, as it SHOULD BE. Only one fall occurred on the flat and that was bc I had a very nervous rider who insisted that she would lose her balance at the trot...and she was right. My horse stopped after she fell, and she had a bruise on her bottom.
There are a lot of accidents that can happen with riding horses. They generally come through them unscathed. We, on the other hand break when they happen. DON'T make any excuses for the stable or the horse.
Watch lessons at other places and see how the horses behave and how the instructor treats students. Then...move. =D
I totally get where you're coming from. I'll explain a bit more about the spooking (I promise I'm not making excuses!)- The trainers at the barn refer to him as a "gentle giant", and a good lesson horse for beginners. My riding instructor told me last week that on the day he spooked he hadn't been turned out in two days (she was unaware of this at the time), on top of which it was one of the coldest days we'd had all winter (I'm in FL and it was in the 30's). The reason he spooked is that a trailer full of horses passed right behind the arena.. all of the horses in the stalls spooked as well. I'm just not sure if it was just a bunch of unlucky circumstances? Luckily, I've been on a really sweet horse since then and I hope to stay with him for a while.

I am doing my research on other places and might try out a few lessons around town :)
     
    01-18-2012, 12:47 PM
  #9
Showing
If you are even asking this question, talk to her and let her know you want to spend more time at the walk and dab a little in the trot before you go doing "what all the students do."

I've had my horse for a year and 2 months.. I haven't even cantered off of the lunge line nor jumped. Even if my horse was a jumper or a cantering pro.. I wouldn't do it. I'm trying to learn slowly.. become really good at the walk at the trot and the canter, starting first on the lunge line and then moving off of it.

You take the risk of being bucked off or spooked on by even going near a horse, so that didn't really throw up any red flags. Horses can pick up on emotions really easily and some people and horses seem to bring out the worst in each other, or alternatively the best. I'm glad she made you ride a different horse instead of telling you to just get back on and get to work.

Grooming unfortunately can take forever but it is a very integral part of horses. They need to get those muscles loosened up and that circulation flowing before they can warm up and get to work. The better you get at grooming, IMOP, the more comfortable the horse and the less likely to injure themselves in any manner.

Either way good luck on your lessons! If you like how she teaches you, stick with it. If not, find someone else :)
     
    01-18-2012, 01:15 PM
  #10
Green Broke
Do as you wish. =D
     

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