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post #11 of 15 Old 10-21-2011, 04:01 PM Thread Starter
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Well, another interesting lesson today. I told my instructor about having trouble getting him to pick up his left lead. He was supposed to be bad about picking up the right one but I have no problems with that. So today I, literally, spent my WHOLE lesson trying to get him to pick up his left lead canter! How frustrating. We would take breaks every now and then because we were BOTH getting tired. My instructor even convinced me to take the crop and tap him on the outside shoulder when I asked him for the left lead because just asking with my leg obviously wasnt getting the point across. After so long, I asked her to get on him and just please make him do it because he wasn't doing it for me and I didn't want him to get away with it. So she got on him and had to get after him a bit but managed to get him to do it. I was a little relieved to see him also yank on HER when she asked him to canter, like he does with me - throws his head down. It was good to see how SHE handled it and now I know what I'm doing wrong bc she's always telling me 'you're not doing anything about him throwing his head down you're just letting him do it' After a bit of a battle of wills she got him to pick up the correct lead and cantered around a bit. Something else for me to work on now!
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post #12 of 15 Old 10-26-2011, 06:41 PM Thread Starter
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how FRUSTRATING!!!! Grrr...still can't seem to get him to pick up his left lead. In my lesson today we tried that direction first and the first time he almost picked it up and then threw his head down so hard that I, literally, landed on his neck. I was sure I was going over but he was kind enough to stop moving so I could push myself back into the saddle and he picked his head back up. Got me a little shaken though. Next time I asked I had the opportunity to 'correct' him like my instructor had shown me last week and that was pretty much the end of the head yanking...but still no left lead canter. She also discovered that the more 'firm' you ask, the faster he will shut down and not do it. So WHILE I'm getting frustrated and NOT getting it, I have to keep my cool and NOT ask more emphatically. Then he's anticipating me asking so he's got this fast choppy trot and does NOT want to slow down and get under control b/c I can't ask him when he's going too fast and not balanced or he'll just trip. GAAAA!!! Makes me want to scream. My instructor said 'lets try the other lead' so I changed directions and VIOLA perfect take off on the right lead canter no problems. So I did that a couple times then switched directions again and asked for the left lead...nope. Wouldn't do it.
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post #13 of 15 Old 10-26-2011, 07:55 PM
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Could it possibly be painful for him to pick up his left lead? I would look into that, there may be something wrong. If he is such an Angel about picking up his right lead, but is so strongly rejecting picking up his left. Back problems, saddle fit, leg issues, feet ect.. Also, every horse has their good way and their bad way. For instance my 23 year old arab mare's good way is her left. I turn her around and ask for a right lead, oh boy.. haha Actually I've been working a lot on canter transitions over the last few weeks with Dandy (said horse above and horse in Avatar). She's doing GREAT! It's taught me a lot about working with horses and picking up the canter transition. She didn't even know what a transition was a couple weeks ago, it was trot, faster trot, trot that is going to bounce you out of your seat, canter! Now it's walk, cue, canter

My suggestion (as long as you have checked him out and there is indeed no medical issues). What I have to do with Dandy sometimes, to get her to pick up her 'right' lead, contradicts the actual cue to get them to canter. You know, the correct way to ask her to canter I'd have her collected, and head bent slightly to the inside of the arena and cue her with an outside leg. Sometimes, if she won't pick up the right lead correctly for me though, I will slightly over-bend her head to the outside of the arena and use an outside leg and seat. This sort pushes her into that right lead, I've made it easier for her to pick up that right lead. As soon as she picks it up, I reward her and bring her head back around to an inside bend. After a few strides, I stop her, then ask her correctly to pick up the right lead again (head bent inside, outside leg). If she fights me, I stop and again push her into that right lead, reward, halt, and then ask her again correctly. Usually after the second or third time she does it and every time I work with her it's becoming easier and easier. Good luck!

**And wow, just realized I was on page two.. -headsmack- >< Sorry about that, he's just being green. Not in pain most likely. My suggestion should still be valid though I believe! I know it's worked with Dandy. This gives me a look at what I'm about to get into though next week I start training my three year old filly how to canter. We've mastered the trot! Oh boy, though. I'm sure I'll be posting again soon! haha

Riding a horse is not a gentle hobby to be picked up and laid down like a game of solitaire. It is a grand passion. -Emerson

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post #14 of 15 Old 10-26-2011, 08:46 PM Thread Starter
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well that's why I had the instructor get on last week and make him do it so she could tell if there was something bothering him and to see if he would even do it at all. She said he probably DOES need to be adjusted especially since the last person to adjust him was not an equine chiropractor but a regular people chiropractor. I am not the owner of this horse, the owner is selling him but asking too much for the lack of training that he has. I guess she'd rather keep paying board and fee's instead of just lowering his price. She will not pay the trainer to work with him (which he needs) and I guess doesn't want to put any money into him other than what's absolutely necessary. So far, I've basically been the only one riding him and that's only one or two times a week (lately only once). It's very frustrating, he's such a sweet horse and he has so much POTENTIAL if I had the money I'd just offer a couple thou... less than what she's asking and keep him at the same barn and have the trainer work with him some. He USED to be bad to get into his right lead. Now he picks up his right lead with no problem but wont pick up his left...although the trainer can get on him and get him to do it but it's a very specific way to ask and I am apparently not doing it right
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post #15 of 15 Old 10-27-2011, 06:04 PM
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He sounds crooked to me, hang on in there and keep gently ease him out of him habits, every time her improves, even if its just a little, Praise him. I would also get his back checked, just to be sure.
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