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    12-07-2008, 10:25 PM
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Jubilee, I think your horse was being a silly willy... it's cold outside and she was not listening to you. You just needed to get her head up and force her to listen to you.

I don't think "see sawing" was the right word phrase but I do understand I think what wordstoasong was saying. I think shew as saying use alternating preasure and that, done correctly won't deaden a horses mouth. She's not talking about ripping the reigns from side to side.

I'll be honost, My 24 year old qh will yank the reigns out of my hands and put his head close to the ground when he's feeling obnoxious, he's avoiding the bit and ignoring me. I'll pull him up gently, I'll do all kinds of things, in the end I'll end up yanking his head up forcefully. It's rough but it gets his attention and he will stop his antics, well... he'll move on to a differnet obnoxious tactic, but he's mr. Manners himself.

Just get her attention and keep her working.
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    12-07-2008, 11:56 PM
Thank you everyone for your suggestions. When I'm out at the barn tuesday night, hopefully she won't continue to be a dork. I understand what wordstoasong was saying about "see-sawing." Maybe it could be put in different terms but its simply playing with the bit softly to remind the horse of contact and get them listening. Yes, she could of have been still slightly stiff from being off exercise and I did take that into consideration. However, that does not mean she has to be ill-mannered. IDK, I'll see what happens Tuesday. Maybe she was just being moody.

Also, this may sound odd since this is my own thread, but I just want to remind everyone about the Conscientious Etiquette Policy. Everyone has their own opinions and no one method is necessarily right or good for everyone, so please keep this in mind when posting. Thanks.
    12-08-2008, 08:01 AM
Some horses need to be reminded that they are not in charge. Although hard yanking while see-sawing can cause damage, done as a reminder is just that.

The way I have done it - and only with a snaffle - is to make light contact while holding the reins with just my thumb and index finger. I use the other three fingers to alternately squeeze and release which sets up a slight motion in my horse's mouth. It is more annoying then anything else and the moment my horse reacts, I stop.

It can be an affective tool if done properly but a hurtful one if not. I'm sure that is what wordstoasong was refering to and not sitting back and yanking back and forth.
    12-09-2008, 08:18 PM
Thanks again, everyone for your advice.

I was out at the barn tonight and I rode Jubilee again. She was MUCH MUCH better. She still was putting her head down, but I got another lady to watch me while I was riding, and she told me she was just balancing herself out. It's snowy and the footing's not the best. Plus where I was riding was kind of a slant. So I don't think she was trying to be dorky, she was just balancing herself. If she stuck her head down way too far, I tried crossing my inside rein over my outside and lifting it, this REALLY helped. All in all, it was a SUPER ride! She was soo good. I could feel her working her back end a lot and "giving me her back" at the sit trot. It was awesome. Just wanted to give you the update!
    12-19-2008, 06:57 PM
Jubilee Rose, what you did to get her head back up is exactly what I would suggest.
Use your legs and lift your hands up, and forward slightly to encourage her to move forward into the contact.

Horses have their off days too and sometimes just need that little extra push.
    01-08-2009, 06:56 PM
A martingale might help... or were you already using one?
    01-16-2009, 04:11 PM
Because she hadn't been ridden or exercised in a week or so maybe she was feeling a bit sluggish and wasn't up to her usual fitness standard so was streching her head down as it relaxes their neck muscles. Orr, because she hadn't been ridden she had a bit more energy and wanted to run off with you because that's what my horse does when he goes into a gallop on a hack. - Puts his head down and REALLY grips the bit.
    01-16-2009, 07:09 PM
I doubt it was just stretching the neck down to be fair. Perhaps she is evading your control? You need to really sit up and push through with your body and ride off of your leg rather than mouth as has been suggested.
    10-12-2012, 10:26 AM
I would suggest using a daisy rein. Not known by meany, but it is a 'rein' that attaches from the saddle to the top of their bridle. You don't want it to be hurtful so you can adjust it, but it will discourage your horse from pulling its head down. Obviously an artificial aid is not going to be the best solution however you can try it.:)
    10-19-2012, 01:12 AM
Haha I was kind of giggling about using your legs to bring her head up....I ride reining and if I just touch my horse sides ever so lightly with a little bumping action....he drops his head! Too funny how different we all are

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