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    06-15-2010, 10:08 AM
  #1
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This Made Me REALLY Angry.

I was on YouTube looking for a good video to show how the bit works in the horses mouth. Well, I came across his video, and it really made me mad. I can't believe that someone would do this to a horse! (If this is in the wrong forum, please let me know.)


What do you think of this?
     
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    06-15-2010, 10:40 AM
  #2
Showing
This video has been all over this forum like 3 times. I believe in training section and tack section.
     
    06-15-2010, 10:40 AM
  #3
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Ive been to alot of horse shows in my life and have NEVER seen that much abuse in one show. I was very proud of the one horse who managed to get his rider off. While this video was very anti-bit and I am very pro-bit, I can see how in abusive hands a bit can be a tool to destruction.
     
    06-15-2010, 10:40 AM
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Green Broke
Wow - there is some extremely crappy horsemanship on that video. However, I don't like how the video tries to say that all equine sports & horsemen/women do that. It looks like a propaganda video.
     
    06-15-2010, 11:01 AM
  #5
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I don't like how these horsemen stay in their horses mouth like that, and also the constant whipping. I understand a necessary whip occasionally when the horse is misbehaving, but in this case it appears to be the rider's fault. The narrator in the video blows his opinions out of proportion a little bit too, I think. Not everybody engages in such behavior as these people. I have gotten frustrated with my horse and yanked on him and whipped him, so I understand where these riders are coming from, but after I do it once I feel terrible that I did that to my horse and I stop and try fix the problem in a more humane manner. I hope these riders did the same after they calmed down and collected themselves.
     
    06-15-2010, 11:07 AM
  #6
Yearling
HOLY CRAP!!!!! I would NEVER do something like that to a horse. All of mine have been really soft in the mouth. I saw one of the previous owners hang in the mouth, and wonder why it was acting up. He would back up, twist his tail, rear, and buck. The guy thought it was a behavioral problem! I took him and the first time I got on him at home, he acted up like this. It took a while, but once he relaxed and realized I wasn't going to be jerking or pulling all the time, he settled down. He always a bit nervous when first getting on, but he turned out to be one of the better horses I've had.
     
    06-15-2010, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by charlicata    
HOLY CRAP!!!!! I would NEVER do something like that to a horse. All of mine have been really soft in the mouth. I saw one of the previous owners hang in the mouth, and wonder why it was acting up. He would back up, twist his tail, rear, and buck. The guy thought it was a behavioral problem! I took him and the first time I got on him at home, he acted up like this. It took a while, but once he relaxed and realized I wasn't going to be jerking or pulling all the time, he settled down. He always a bit nervous when first getting on, but he turned out to be one of the better horses I've had.

My horse used to do the same thing. It took me forever to find a good bit for him. I found out he doesn't like the action of the bits that "break" in the middle. E.g. Snaffles, tom thumbs, etc. I use a medium ported curb bit with 5 or 6 inch shanks (can't remember which) with a roller. He's so relaxed in it and works so well with it. I haven't had a bucking problem since. I've had several people tell me to use just a snaffle because if I used my curb bit I would "make him mad" and it would be "inhumane."
     
    06-15-2010, 11:29 AM
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Different bits work for different horses.

It does annoy me to no end to see the riders hanging on their horses' mouths and hitting them repeatedly with the crop. It's my belief that after one strike or two the horse won't associate the pain he's feeling with whatever he did "wrong".

I had a horse that would veer to the side whenever she was trying to evade having to slow up or work a little harder. I gave her a single smack with the whip each time she did it, and after five or six times she got the association right "every time I do this I get smacked, maybe I shouldn't do it any more". She didn't ever really try it again after that. The same thing happened with another mare that would stop and whinny for her herd mates constantly on the trail. One smack for every whinny. After one ride I never needed to use the crop again. She knew better than to call out to her buddies and actually started to put a little more faith in me.
     
    06-15-2010, 11:34 AM
  #9
Weanling
Obviously this is an extrely biased video trying to convince the world riding a horse is evil and cruel. The part where he says we constantly beat the horse is rediculious. He even makes up fake phrases that horse people supposedly use like " feeling the pain". I don't even use a crop on my horse when we jump. Everytime he sees a jump his ears perk and I can just feel the energy in his step. Contrary to the horses and riders in the video. I honestly believe those are terrible riders with horrible methods and were probably hired to do the video. And yes doing that to the poor horses is abuse, but I have never seen an honest rider do that type of abuse with a crop or be That violent with the bit. And also what the heck it says all riders constantly beat the horses neck and EYES. This video is full of trash information and just shows how uneducated, blunt, and resentfull that man is of a beautiful partnership and is showing the absolute most horrendus case possible.
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    06-15-2010, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by sullylvr    
I honestly believe those are terrible riders with horrible methods and were probably hired to do the video. And yes doing that to the poor horses is abuse, but I have never seen an honest rider do that type of abuse with a crop or be That violent with the bit. Posted via Mobile Device
Unfortunately I don't think they were hired to do this... and I have seen horses treated in this manner before at shows. A mare was refusing jumps and the "trainer" got on and beat the crap out of her every time she refused the jump just like the video shows.

I've also seen a western trainer being very harsh with her use of the bit and spurs, so this does not apply only to english riders.

This said, it is obvious that not all riders are so unfairly harsh and cruel. I know that horses are frequently eager to go over jumps (my pony certainly is). So in this respect the video is incorrectly extreme.
     

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