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    11-07-2010, 12:05 PM
  #21
Foal
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Originally Posted by GreyRay    
Seeing as horses mount eachother... I don't think that me mounting a horse would cause much more discomfort.
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Do the horses "mount" in the middle of the other horse's back doing this, and do they do this on a daily basis, which can cause Repetitive Stress Syndrome?
     
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    11-07-2010, 12:06 PM
  #22
Foal
Thanks guys, im talking about mounting from the ground without using the stirrup with a saddle on tho. I would like to know was there anything you did to help you learn and get the spring in your step ? Lol
     
    11-07-2010, 01:16 PM
  #23
Yearling
Common sense says that when someone mounts from the ground, all their weight (I don't care how much they weigh) pulling the saddle will put strain on a horses back.

Just because everyone does it, has done it for however many years or wants to do it doesn't mean what I'm saying isn't true. As someone pointed out, common sense...common sense says mounting from the ground DOES put stress on the horses back. WHY would we want to do that when it's unnecessary? I CAN mount from the ground, it's not pretty but I can do it - I just don't to spare my horse the trouble of me trying to. I do think everyone should be able to (especially if they trail ride) but I also think they should use something as a mounting block whenever possible.


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    11-07-2010, 01:25 PM
  #24
Green Broke
KMDstar, if you mount correctly then very little pressure should be put in the stirrup. If you put pressure on the stirrup you will stretch the leathers. However if you use momentum and springiness to get up ellegantly and lightly then you don't put much, if any pressure on the horses back.

When I get on a horse from the ground it is just as pretty and easy as getting on a horse from a block.

Then again stan often decided the block was going to eat him and after stripping the horses in the showring no block was available to get back on so being able to quickly, efficiently, easily and elegantly (for the showring) get on from the floor became essentail for me. I can do it from either side and there is certainly no scrabbling, pulling or thumping involved.
     
    11-07-2010, 02:42 PM
  #25
Foal
I think 1 person has attempted to actually answer my question ...
     
    11-07-2010, 03:17 PM
  #26
Showing
I will generally use my left hand on the mane and my right hand on the horn, especially on young horses that have never been mounted before. On my older horses, I usually put left hand on the horn and right hand on the cantle. I don't particularly like doing it that way but it is an old habit that I am trying to break. I put my left foot in the stirrup and push off with my right leg, then use the hand on the mane to support most of my weight so that I minimize the pressure on the saddle. I only have a video of me doing it the way that I don't like to but....
I know that this horse isn't terribly tall (maybe 15.1) but it still works the same way for taller ones.

I don't see what the big deal is about moving the saddle just a little bit. My horses have roped and drug 500+ pound cattle on a daily basis for a long time and never showed any signs of back pain or lameness. I really don't think that my little 150 pounds being off center for a couple of seconds is going to cripple them.
     
    11-07-2010, 03:51 PM
  #27
Yearling
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Originally Posted by csuebele    
Do the horses "mount" in the middle of the other horse's back doing this, and do they do this on a daily basis, which can cause Repetitive Stress Syndrome?
Who the heck actually rides the same horse every day?

And yes, our young horses play on a daily basis, they rear, and buck and kick and crawl all over eachother, daily.
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    11-07-2010, 05:06 PM
  #28
Yearling
Two basic methods:

1 - stand next to horse at the neck facing towards his butt, grasp the mane with the hand closest to him (Left) & take one big bouncy step with the one closest to him (left) and swing up with your other leg (right). I used to practice with my bike as a kid. Don't be surprised if you hit him in the side a few times...

2 - stand facing the horses side & then jump with both feet so you land on your belly on his back. Then wiggle your way into position. This method is a little easier as one ages...but also gives the horse plenty of opportunity to leave...

For practice, try jumping up on the side of a pickup truck bed. Once you can do that, you should be good to try your horse! I have seen a lot of cowboys practice first using the saddle horn only to jump on using the first method, then progress to bareback once they are successful using the horn.

To the mounting block people, I never use them! Can't stand the silly things & have had many horses move away from them, so why bother? If I am not limber enough to get on my horse then it is time to quit riding...have you ever seen the jockeys leap up onto a horse? That's what I try to do...
     
    11-07-2010, 05:37 PM
  #29
Green Broke
Im 5ft and have got on 16.3hh/17hh from the ground. I personally don't do it with my own horse (15hh) as its not good for their backs.
     
    11-07-2010, 06:12 PM
  #30
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by GreyRay    
Who the heck actually rides the same horse every day?
Those of us with competition ponies who need keeping fit and schooled. Stan was worked by me 7 days a week for minimum of an hour.

When I had 4 competition ponies I rode every one of them 6 days out of 7.

Not all of us have loads of horses to ride, not all of us have the luxury of having someone else to ride thier horse and some of us have to keep competition ponies FIT for said competitions. It is commonly called having dedication. You can bet that all those top horses will be worked 7 days a week, even if it is by a groom or on a hack out.
Reeco when he goes for breaking will be worked 2-3 times a day, and I will continue that when I get him back, it will only likely be twice a day but it helps get a young horse schooled and ready for the competition season. He will be broken in january/february and I will have him at shows in april at the start of the season and he will be going correctly and be able to be ridden by any ride judge that I put him under.

It is actualy better for a horse to have regular every day work as opposed to days off because tieing up can be caused by exercise after short breaks of inactivity. It is also called monday morning disease because the london cab horses who had sunday off would often get azoutria on monday after a bit of work.
     

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