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  • My legs cannot carry my weight.
  • I have bad knees and can't do squats.

 
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    04-06-2012, 11:08 AM
  #1
Trained
my legs are about to drop off...

...and I couldn't be more pleased about it! We were jumping today and because I wasn't sure about the width of my oxer I was riding mostly in half-seat. Well, let me tell you, 2hrs in half seat kills. I'm working on height and width at the moment, and the height isn't challenging but my horse likes to over-jump oxers and I can stay with him better if I'm already out of my saddle when he jumps.

We got up to 100cm high over a vertical (3'4"-ish) which is nothing new, I've been training around that height for a while, but I haven't ridden for 2 weeks and I lose confidence very quickly. And we got to 3' high oxers, I think my oxer was at one point more than 3'4" wide but I never measured and we made it narrower again for my friend's young TB mare.

I will be SO sore in the morning but it's so worth it and my riding is only going to be better for it.
     
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    04-06-2012, 11:13 AM
  #2
Banned
Squats are your friend
     
    04-06-2012, 11:27 AM
  #3
Trained
I can't do squats.. I have bad knees, can't even ride a bike or they ache for days. One is worse than the other. I can work gym machines just fine, but not a bike, and not squats. Maybe I should make time to go to the gym. Or maybe I should just ride more often, and in half-seat more, so that it's not so exhausting. Still proud of myself for being able to ride mostly in half-seat for 2hrs though!

I think I pinch with my knees at canter in full seat, but in half-seat and two-point it's physically impossible for me because my knees hurt like hell if I grip with them too much with all my weight in my stirrups. I strongly suspect that's why I stay with fathead better when I'm in half-seat than full seat.

Edit; I can actually do the squats where you put your back against a wall and keep your legs at a right angle, I think because some of my weight goes into the wall that way. My knees struggle to take my whole weight when bent without some form of support. Sad part of that is that I'm tiny :/
     
    04-06-2012, 01:37 PM
  #4
Green Broke
If you can ride around and do jumps all day I don't see how you can have bad knees, maybe week knees ? Have you seen a sports medicine, doctor ? SHow him what you do and tell him you'd like to get better at it, what should you do.
     
    04-06-2012, 01:44 PM
  #5
Trained
If you have bad knees, try doing hip exercises. A lot of knee problems are related to weak hip and lower core muscles, especially in women.
     
    04-06-2012, 02:02 PM
  #6
Yearling
Try swimming, great for all muscles and low impact, I have terrible ankles, knees and wrists and swimming is the only sport or exercise that doesn't hurt, or put up with it. If your willing to deal with pain from riding, squats shouldn't be that bad, try rub on pain cream works wonders. I use to help train with my dad that was stairs and suicide lines (touching every line on the floor of a basket ball court and running back to the wall). My personal favorite, taking care of a horse, cleaning stalls, turning manure piles, spreading and moving 50 pound bales (preferably done by the hundreds) make sure to bend your legs when lifting!
     
    04-06-2012, 02:22 PM
  #7
Trained
Joe, just because I can ride and jump etc all day doesn't mean I don't have dodgy knees! I get such a rush out of jumping that I've been known to fall badly and get straight back on, and only realise that I've injured myself up to an hour after the fact. That happened a few weeks ago, actually, and I ended up with a knee that was hurting so badly, I physically could not ride home, couldn't walk, couldn't do anything but sit and hold back tears. I was riding again the next day but I really paid for it.

I actually know a lot of people, myself included, who ride despite pain. I can't speak for everyone but I know for me, I ride for the adrenaline. I don't even feel the pain until later. I'm really paying for it now and I don't know if I'll be able to walk tomorrow, but it's so worth it. Of course I get so sunburnt I can't wear a bra (I'm fairly flat-chested, it's not a necessity for me) and I still say that whatever I was doing was worth it, and I still don't wear sunblock... pain doesn't stop me doing what I love. Which is odd because outside of horses I totally don't do pain.

Edit; just saw Cruiser's post. I work checkout at one of the major supermarkets in Australia, so I do a lot of lifting. I don't bag any less than 5kg unless I'm specifically asked to keep the bags light, and I'll lift several hundred bags a day. Not including the 10-15kg cartons and slabs of drinks, the 8kg bags of dog food, and the 10kg bags of rice that routinely come through my checkout. I can carry a 20kg bag of horse feed from the house to the feed shed (50m give or take). Bear in mind, I only weigh 50kg!

I love swimming, but I can't bear laps. It's too monotonous. I also won't swim in the ocean (too cold in winter, and nasty stinging jellyfish in summertime), and the public pool costs an arm and a leg. I don't have a pool myself as the maintenance annoys me.
     
    04-06-2012, 03:50 PM
  #8
Yearling
Well at least your doing something other than standing all day, you only weigh a little less than I do, so never use your size for an excuse. I don't know the conversion well between kg and lbs (considering I am suppose to kg and only know lbs that is bad). I find swimming with friends helps, here we have free swims or cheap swims at public pools, or you can get passes for the season. If you want machines for working your legs a good one is bikes that let you sit back instead of upright easier on back, hips and knees. Good luck
     
    04-07-2012, 03:51 AM
  #9
Showing
Calf raises, squeezing an exercise ball between your knees are great exercises for your legs.

Weak knees or bad knees need gentle but consistent exercise so they can strengthen. Low impact activities done consistently will accomplish this. For me, squats work really well and I have very messed up knees. Just go slow and don't push yourself past the breaking point :)
     
    04-07-2012, 06:06 AM
  #10
Trained
Actually, your body weight does make a difference to how much you can safely lift. I'm at my ideal weight, any heavier and I would be overweight and any lighter I would be too skinny. They say without training you should be able to lift and carry 20% of your body weight, which for me is 10kg. With training you can achieve more, of course, which is why I can carry 20kg, which is 40% of my weight, without injuring myself. It's bloody heavy, but I can manage it. Always knocks the socks off the guy at the feed store. He never expects someone my size to lift something that heavy.

10kg is 22lb give or take a little. 5 times that, to get 50kg, is 110lb. Give or take one or two pounds.

I live under a rock when it comes to exercise... what's a calf raise? LOL. I probably don't do squats right, I've never been shown how so it's more than likely. Hence the pain, because I'm doing it wrong.

I am really paying for yesterday's awesome ride now, can barely walk. My quads are just dead, if my foot hits the ground with my knee bent it wants to collapse out from under me because I worked my quads so hard yesterday they just can't support my weight on bent knees. But that should make my lower leg much more stable, given some time to recover.

My aerobic fitness leaves a lot to be desired but when I can't ride a bike, can't run, won't swim in the ocean and can't afford the only public pool in town, what can I do? Maybe I should get one of those bikes you pedal with your hands... or a pair of rollerblades.
     

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