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        05-09-2013, 08:13 PM
      #11
    Yearling
    To me, he looks like he's testing you. "Hmmm, I wonder what I can get away with before she actually makes me do something. I wonder if I can be in charge here - that would be so cool".

    Ask, then tell, then demand. As Sky mentioned, don't kick. Go back to the basics. You ask for more forward action with your hips and a squeeze (that's your "ask"). You don't give a second chance. Wait a couple seconds. If you don't get the response you want, you either make all your cues more intense or tickle with the crop (that's your "tell"). If you don't get the response you want, you demand (give a resounding whack with the crop like you really mean it). If he bucks when you do this, you'll need to think of something different for your "demand" step. When he moves forward, don't yank back on the reins. He's doing what you asked - don't punish him for it. Gradually rein him in to where you want him. The point is to teach him that if he doesn't listen to you the first time, things will get worse for him. He will learn that it's easier to do what you want in the first place.
         
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        05-10-2013, 02:50 AM
      #12
    Weanling
    I've realised that I tend to flap, not kick and I use the whip correctly behind my leg.
    Thanks everyone
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        05-12-2013, 04:27 PM
      #13
    Showing
    Do you work with an experienced trainer at all? I'm sure that would help tons.
         
        05-12-2013, 04:33 PM
      #14
    Weanling
    Not at the moment as money is tight but a lesson from a good instructer is at the top of my birthday list! Also, how can I kick without flapping?
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        05-12-2013, 04:35 PM
      #15
    Showing
    You don't kick. You squeeze, or tap with your calf.. NOT your heel.
         
        05-13-2013, 04:45 PM
      #16
    Super Moderator
    You have a horse that is a heavyweight, it is taking no notice of you at all and basically doing what it wants.
    You have to toughen up a lot with how you ride her.

    As said, you want to squeeze and then a little kick if she takes no notice of this, use your whip HARD right behind your leg. She should shoot forward whereby you halt and ask again.

    She is a gypsy cob and most cobs catch on to what they can get away with very quickly.
         
        05-13-2013, 04:51 PM
      #17
    Weanling
    Urm not sure on whipping her hard, if I was a horse and my rider whacked me, I wouldn't be going anywhere with her! Plus stopping her when she shoots off is just telling her to stop as soon as she's going imo could get quite confusing? But I agree I need to toughen up

    And she's just a cob btw-not a gypsy cob?
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        05-13-2013, 05:05 PM
      #18
    Started
    You aren't going to hurt her if you give her a hard whack, and what you're doing is NOT working, you've gotten some very solid advice. You want to get her listening and respecting you, and that's going to take some 'tough love'.

    I don't agree with Foxhunter, you don't want to halter after she starts moving forward. Bring her down to the gait you were asking for in the first place, keep her moving forward, and then you stop and ask again, if she doesn't go forward another whack and repeat the process until she's responsive of your leg.
         
        05-13-2013, 05:07 PM
      #19
    Weanling
    I've also got the problam of her bucking and kicking out when I tap her with the whip
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        05-13-2013, 05:37 PM
      #20
    Showing
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    Originally Posted by dommycob    
    I've also got the problam of her bucking and kicking out when I tap her with the whip
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    She's trying to tsay "hey I'm not going to listen" until she takes 1 step forward, do not let up with her legs and the whip tapping. It shouldn't be a thwack at first. It should be a tickle and then get increasingly bigger.

    Make sure you aren't smacking your horse on the rump as that may be what is causing the bucking.

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    And honey you aren't a horse. At this point all you are doing is winding him up to where he is just ignoring you.
         

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