Originally Posted by Foxhunter
Your 'extra' security is not a good thing!
Part of the reason there was a phase where several people were killed eventing in the UK due to rotational falls. Some of this was because riders were using deep seated, big knee rolls and thigh block saddles, this not so easy to fall from.
As for the boy not getting his seat out of the saddle, he is fine, not the best of positions but darn sight safer than the rider who stays in the two point position! Bet that lad has Fox Hunted that pony for many hours!
I go along with Freya!
We were taught to ride and not use knee rolls and thigh blocks to get a good position.
Steady on! I wasn't insulting the boy - to be jumping where he is he's a great rider, I was merely commenting on his stirrups looking long. It wasn't meant to diss him at all - hell, I used to jump with my stirrups really long too, and it is secure enough. However I'd love to know why you think jumping with long stirrups is safer than jumping in two-point?
Also, I think if I were in a rotational fall, I'd be dead whether I was in a saddle with or without the knee blocks - I'm not nearly a good enough rider to think that quickly and get out of the way whatever saddle I'm in. So if I can save myself landing on some solid fences if my youngster decides he'd rather not jump them? Then I'll take it.
I agree learning to ride without them teaches you a more secure seat and leg, and I did - I've had a few nasty moments XC in my old GP without blocks etc where for example I've had a slip before a combination, lost stirrups and then jumped a triple drop staircase with no stirrups AND still holding my horse together - I'm not relying on them to stay in the saddle. However I do appreciate anything that gives me bit of extra security XC.