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View Poll Results: Is it okay to show palominos in the hunter ring?
yes 70 95.89%
no 3 4.11%
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    12-04-2008, 10:49 AM
  #41
Yearling
I just loved Poltroon with Torrance Watkins back in the day! What a great horse, only 15.1 but could do it all!
     
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    12-11-2008, 12:00 PM
  #42
Yearling
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Originally Posted by PoptartShop    
Hmm, it depends on where you show. ;) Some shows don't care, others not so much. ;) I don't see it being a problem if the horse has potential!
The only time it has ever affect D & I was if the judge didn't like paints or just didn't like them jumping. At one schooling show I took him too geting D experience for the show world oh so many years ago. The judge wouldn't place us in anything! D didn't have very many 1st but I could have seen a 2nd here and there. I asked her what we could improve on and she told me "Sell that paint, they don't belong in the hunter world. You need a warmblood" ME:" I think I know what this series isn't so popular anymore" she didn't like my comment but she isn't the only judge that's jiped us because D is a paint. I see a lot of Pal's so you should not have the issue that D & I have because I see more and more colors in the Jumping ring now a days
     
    12-11-2008, 02:07 PM
  #43
Foal
I don't think that color matters so much, but I do know that palominos have some background that might lead to descrimination. Because befor proper breeding, horses were bred for color and not skill, so that lead to a lot of issues with breeding palominos, because of their pretty color. People bred the irresponsible for their color and led to alot of genetic issues due to inbreeding and such. Maybe that has something to do with, just a guess, hope it helps!
     
    12-11-2008, 03:44 PM
  #44
Foal
Although she is now used as a recreational ride and broodmare, our golden palomino BWP mare was the ONE AND ONLY palomino active in national riding competitions. She not only did her bit in individual dressage but also in group dressage (4- and 8- group) and, her favourite, jumping!

The only comment we ever received was that she was 'rather' small! Well compared to the giants of 170 cm plus I suppose a mere 160 cm would seem small!!

As a parent searching for your son in a warmup field with +/- 300 horses being ridden it is very difficult if you have to look for a bay, grey or chestnut!! But a palomino .... stands out a mile!!!!! She was more often than not used as a marker by alot of the parents and supporters!!!

I expect that next year when her 4 year old CREMELLO daughter goes into the dressage competition I WILL be receiving alot of (negative) comments and have to listen to alot of prejudges!!!
     
    12-19-2008, 10:47 PM
  #45
Foal
Anybody old enough to remember the movie "The Horse With the Flying Tail?" If I remember rightly, the horse's name was Nautical, a palomino and one of the greatest jumpers of his time. I'm sure he would have been welcome in the hunter ring--even back in those days.
     
    12-20-2008, 02:42 PM
  #46
Weanling
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Originally Posted by farmpony84    
Truthfully I dont' think it much matters what the color of the horse is. If it's a good mover and is built correctly for the discipline it's being shown in, it's USUALLY judged farely. Once in a while you get a judge that isnt keen on a certain breed or color, but for the most part, it's not the big a deal... I don't know that I've ever seen a palomino discriminated against in the hunt ring though...... paints, apps, drafts, arabs yes... but not a palomino....
That reminds me of the time when I was about 12 when I showed a 16somethinghh Appaloosa gelding in a hunter show. Everyone told me that I shouldn't expect to pin, because the judge only liked brown horses. I got second in either equitation or hunter under saddle, but I didn't pin in any other classes. That second place ribbon made my day though!
     
    12-21-2008, 04:44 AM
  #47
Foal
My show horse when I was showing very competitively was a palomino and we have no issues in the hunter ring. In fact we did very well and usually were always in the top 3. He was a stunning dark golden palomino with 3 stockings and a blaze, so very flashy and it never caused us any trouble.

On thing to remember though - when showing a palomino, paint, anything flashy really - you stand out alot more and the judge will notice you and your mistakes more. It just catches the eye.
     
    12-23-2008, 11:45 PM
  #48
Weanling
Judges SHOULD NOT discriminate on colour.
We had a debate here in NZ a few years ago about paints and "coloured" horses being placed below the solid colour horses.
A horse should be placed (if its worthy) no matter if its chestnut, palomino, black or pink with purple spots.
Some judges here, felt they had to place coloured horses below, because they thought over seas judges may look down on them for placing a coloured horse, this discrimination was happening in dressage, showing, show hunter and pretty much all the english diciplines where there was direct judging of how the horse goes, looks etc.

Sorry if that makes no sense :P
     
    12-30-2008, 11:34 PM
  #49
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by mayfieldk    
I'm going to get LAUNCHED on, but.
I think for the most part, nowadays, judges don't really judge color.
It's just that the colored horses aren't always as good.
If there's a class of 30 horses and 7 colored horses and NONE of them were that good, the judge shouldn't and won't place him. But now he 'doesn't like color'. You also have to realize that in a sea of bay, you stand out. Which means EVERY mistake you make will be seen and accounted for.
I think the color thing is old and done with for the most part. It's just that the top trainers aren't picking colored horses, so MOST of the best-trained horses... are still bays. Lol
OK! PLEASE GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT! SERIOUSLY! Ok PHILLIP DUTTON trained a PAINT! Karren O'Conner is training A PAINT! Also we have gone to hunter shows with THREE paints! I HATE judges who do that. They are just stupid, stuck up snobs, who don't know how to judge and shouldn't be judging IMO
     
    01-05-2009, 11:37 PM
  #50
Weanling
I have seen numerous palominos in the hunter ring! I personally love palominos like Mr. Ed and other famous palominos I hate how judges place on breeds/colors etc.... But something else that bugs me is when riders blame the fact that they didnt place cause the judge didnt like their horse...i know of a girl who is spoiled rotten and when she didnt place she threw a hissy fit that the judge didnt like her horse cause she was a bay.....so where like 3/4of the class..... This is why I DO NOT show in hunters, jumpers is just fine for me, I could paint Joe pink and it wouldnt effect our score(unless it is illegal for pink horses to compete lol).
     

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