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View Poll Results: Is it okay to show palominos in the hunter ring?
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post #51 of 57 Old 01-07-2009, 05:15 PM
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OK! PLEASE GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT! SERIOUSLY! Ok PHILLIP DUTTON trained a PAINT! Karren O'Conner is training A PAINT! Also we have gone to hunter shows with THREE paints! I HATE judges who do that. They are just stupid, stuck up snobs, who don't know how to judge and shouldn't be judging IMO
Phillip Dutton and Karren O'Conner are not hunters...
I will say that I would never chose a stock horse for a hunter, although my old pony was a very fancy aqha. Yes, I've seen paint in the hunter ring. Yes, I've seen them do well and win. However, I think it's incredibly rude to say that judges should not be judging, even if you think they have a bias. To be honest the majority of the paint I've competed against in hunters are ponies or only decent movers, like many of the quarter horses I've seen (not all, but most). You can say I'm biast, but most to not have the same wow factor when they are moving as warmbloods. I understand breed bias more than color bias, so I generally think they aren't placing as well because they are stock horses, not because they are colored.

You can disagree with me, but that is my opinion.
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post #52 of 57 Old 01-07-2009, 10:31 PM
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Phillip Dutton and Karren O'Conner are not hunters...
I will say that I would never chose a stock horse for a hunter, although my old pony was a very fancy aqha. Yes, I've seen paint in the hunter ring. Yes, I've seen them do well and win. However, I think it's incredibly rude to say that judges should not be judging, even if you think they have a bias. To be honest the majority of the paint I've competed against in hunters are ponies or only decent movers, like many of the quarter horses I've seen (not all, but most). You can say I'm biast, but most to not have the same wow factor when they are moving as warmbloods. I understand breed bias more than color bias, so I generally think they aren't placing as well because they are stock horses, not because they are colored.

You can disagree with me, but that is my opinion.
yes they arn't huter's, but most of what they do is Dressage, which IMO is alot harder than hunters. And so what if it is a stock horse? They can move just as gracefully as some warmblood. Acctually a stock horse IS a warmblood. Also my opnion on judges judging against hunters is because if they count you down for color, then are they really looking at your ride? If they are looking at your horses color, that means they arn't watching you ride.

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post #53 of 57 Old 01-08-2009, 08:31 AM
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I honestly don't see why people have to make a big deal out of a colour (the judges).

They mark the horse on what the horse can do, not it's colour lmao.

Like I was told greys are bad in the show ring, haha.. the next breath my grey gelding won champion galloway hack..

Just shows you hey
Sometimesjudges wont like a certain colour (even breed) of horse because they do not feel that they look the hunter part. Its sad but that's the hunter world for you. Since hunters are all about looks several judges might knock of some points because it isn't traditional.

I've never seen a palomino have any troubles in the hunter ring.
Paints and appies yes. They don't look very traditional...
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post #54 of 57 Old 01-08-2009, 08:37 AM
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if they are looking at your horses color, that means they arn't watching you ride.
Hunters is not about you, its about your horse. Some judges are very traditional and conservative, and do not like to see different coloured horses. If you look at the pony divisions, almost every single one is a paint.
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yes they arn't huter's, but most of what they do is Dressage, which IMO is alot harder than hunters. And so what if it is a stock horse? They can move just as gracefully as some warmblood. Acctually a stock horse IS a warmblood. Also my opnion on judges judging against hunters is because if they count you down for color, then are they really looking at your ride? If they are looking at your horses color, that means they arn't watching you ride.
Yes, but those are not judged on the same thing as hunter and they do 3 day eventing. Yes, some can move as well as some warmblood, but in generally they do not have movement of the same quality. It's just not what they are bred for. I was saying that most of the horses that have color are stock horses (I'm personally a huge fan of pintos, I actually almost bought a black and white oldenburg hunter), but when I think of a hunter, I think of a warmblood. I personally think they are built more like hunters and have movement more like hunter.


And yes, hunter is judged on the horse, not you. 70% of the score is the horse and only 30% is you if I remember correctly. It's based on the way the horse goes around, they're conformation, and their attitude. You can ride whatever horse you want in equitation and do fine. In fact, if you look at the horses at the Maclay, a lot of the horses have funky conformation, although now that I think about it... most are bay.

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post #56 of 57 Old 01-10-2009, 11:23 AM
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Yes, but those are not judged on the same thing as hunter and they do 3 day eventing. Yes, some can move as well as some warmblood, but in generally they do not have movement of the same quality. It's just not what they are bred for. I was saying that most of the horses that have color are stock horses (I'm personally a huge fan of pintos, I actually almost bought a black and white oldenburg hunter), but when I think of a hunter, I think of a warmblood. I personally think they are built more like hunters and have movement more like hunter.


And yes, hunter is judged on the horse, not you. 70% of the score is the horse and only 30% is you if I remember correctly. It's based on the way the horse goes around, they're conformation, and their attitude. You can ride whatever horse you want in equitation and do fine. In fact, if you look at the horses at the Maclay, a lot of the horses have funky conformation, although now that I think about it... most are bay.
yea, well at least im going into a sport I like, eventing. I only do hunters for training and position work. And my paint mare is like a hunter horse. She always does good and has a long low frome.

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post #57 of 57 Old 04-15-2011, 09:59 PM
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Who gives a crap what color the horse is? If you get placed lower because of your horses color that is freaking stupid!!!!!!!!!! It is so annoying when people look at paints and go "OH, she can't do blah blah blah". Ugg! This annoys me. Who cares what color.
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