Posting trot without stirrups

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    09-13-2013, 04:53 PM
Posting trot without stirrups

Hi All..

I'm a 1 year in, 34 year old rider (returning to the sport after 20 years). I started leasing about 2 months ago and ride 3 times a week.

Lately I've been practicing my sit trot so much, I'm actually almost more comfortable sitting the trot than posting. This sounds crazy to me, but it's true. :)

When I sit, I feel I can get my weight down into my stirrups and feel I'm more consistent down there. When I post, I clearly use something down there to drive myself up as posting w/o stirrups is quite a challenge. I often find this is when I feel inconsistent from the knee down. Maybe more weight when I stand / less when I sit?

I practice stirrup-less a lot too and want to start practicing posting w/o stirrups.

My question is.. when you post w/o stirrups clearly you do not use stirrups and so you rely more on the bounce and your leg muscles to post.

Is this more proper? Aka would it be good to for me to practice stirrup-less posting and when when back in the stirrups try and make it feel the same? It would be a deep seat for a post i'm sure!

Feel free to correct any wrong assumptions I might have :)

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    09-13-2013, 05:24 PM
Yes, it's hard but it helps a lot. Then you learn to use your thighs to trot and not only the stirrups. Then you'll use this skill even for the sit trot.

But you can also check your position at the sit trot: where are your legs?

Be careful that you don't push your legs forward in the stirrups or that your shoulders are beyond vertical. You must stand straight.
    09-13-2013, 05:34 PM
I would suggest you spend time alternating between 2-point and posting the trot before you try posting w/out stirrups again. You need to have an easy swing to posting and it sounds like you haven't mastered this yet. Also, when you post it isn't necessary to stand straight up in the saddle.
Keep trying! =D
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    09-13-2013, 06:12 PM
One thing my trainer had all of her new students do for the last 10 minutes of the lesson was "post" at the walk without stirrups. It's really more of just lifting yourself up and then letting yourself sit since there is no bounce from the horse at the walk and therefore no real rhythm to it. It is a great exercise of strengthening those lower leg muscles which will help you with the posting trot.

You should be using your legs rather than your feet to post, which means when you really have it down (which will take gaining more leg strength as well as really getting into that rhythm) you should be able to post without stirrups just the same as with.
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    09-13-2013, 06:15 PM
I should do more 2 point too.. that's a good point. I don't actually 'stand' I bounce into my post... that was bad wording... but still it effects my leg a bit.

I just want a very quiet, steady lower leg & I'm very focused on it right now.. (read: paranoid about it).

One of the horses I like riding is particular abut her riders having a steady leg, so I'm trying to work on that for her too. She lets me know when it's no good, lol...
    09-13-2013, 07:02 PM
A proper post is done off the calf; not the foot. As such, you have to have the strength to do a proper posting trot without irons...if the strength isn't there you aren't going to have the balance as you will be trying to push up with your foot with no support.

Posting isn't an up and down motion per se. It is taught that way until people learn the rhythm but then it goes into a forward sweeping motion with the hips vice up and down. Watch a more advanced lesson or other more advanced riders and you'll see the difference. You will also notice that their feet are just about completely motionless when they post. That is because they are posting properly from the calf and forward motion of the hips and not relying on the foot to push themselves out of the saddle.

Agree with others. Delay doing a prolonged posting trot without irons and work on building your leg strength through two-point and learning proper posting technique with irons.
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    09-13-2013, 08:04 PM
You have gotten some good advice already. I agree, a proper seat in general is more thighs then feet. By riding without stirrups you build muscles you don't even realize you have. It will help you to have a very good, deep seat, and good leg position too. You won't depend so much on your stirrups once you have that down and your seat will all around feel more comfortable. My trainer who taught me to ride made us sit and post a trot stirrup-less for a good long while during our lessons. I hated it then, but am so thankful for it now :)
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    09-16-2013, 02:21 PM

Thank you! Just the kind of stuff I was looking to confirm. (also the note about how it should come more from the calf.. I might have guessed that, but good to know)

It's amazing to me how much I've been riding since I started last year - and even though I've learned so much - how far I still have to go.

I completely get it now when people on here talk about riding for years and still are working on stuff and don't consider themselves advanced.

I learned how to walk/trot/canter & jump but now I'm focusing on the fine tuning, because I do it all... but sloppy. :) and man does it take a while.... love I though!
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