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        10-15-2010, 07:48 AM
      #11
    Green Broke
    Warmbloods (of most varieties) are purposely bred for performance is dressage and showjumping. They generally have the height, conformation and breeding to have the best chance to excel in these disciplines.

    Although most horses have the potential to do well in at least low level jumping. You don't need a perfect jumper. If you decide to focus on jumping your first jumper isn't going to be the one to take you all the way.

    I believe most horses can successfully jump course of 1m - possibly bigger. I've seen stock horses jump, quarter horses jump, ponies jump, TBs jump, Arabians jump etc. I'd look for a horse that is reliable, athletic and with a good temperament. I wouldn't recommend a pure arabian, they are not built for jumping but a nice cross breed would do nice. I have seen Anglo Arabs, QH/TB and draft horse/TB crosses all be successful in jumping.

    I personally think Warmbloods aren't great beginner horses. They are generally big, strong and discipline specific. Its just my experience though. For English I'd look at maybe a cross breed of some variety, perhaps half TB? Half TB with almost anything seems to turn out reasonably well.
         
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        10-15-2010, 09:54 AM
      #12
    Green Broke
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by corporate pride    
    all depends on what level your doing. If you want to start out, anything safe.
    I personally like TB's or cross breeds.
    My showjumping instructor explained it all to me.
    If the horse is skitzo then it's a showjumper
    If the horse is level headed it's an eventer

    I don't know what's involved in hunters or other jumping sports in other countries though. I was told that QH are better for stock work thn high level jumping because they are down hill??
    Just what i've heard :)

    So go get urself and nice quiet horse that's currently jumping honestly then you can look at breeds :)
    Why in the world would your showjumping instructor say that?? I know PLENTY of showjumpers that are definitely not skitzo! The ones I ride are not. Are there a lot of high strung showjumpers? Absolutely. But there are a HECK of a lot of high strung eventers as well! Anything that has been bred to have power, endurance, courage, and drive is likely to be exciteable.

    QH's are good for stockwork b/c they're smaller and agile and often have the instinct to work a cow, not b/c they're downhill. They're bred for the job so they tend to be good at it. But there are plenty of QHs who are 16-17 hands, great jumpers, decent dressage horses, etc.

    Like I said, look at the individual horse. There are exceptions to every breed.
         
        10-15-2010, 09:59 AM
      #13
    Green Broke
    If a horse is level headed then it is an eventer? If it is skitzo it is a SJ? Huh? Broad generalisations are usually erroneous. I have seen plenty of calm SJ's and if you think all eventers are level headed, go check them out in the XC start box and see how level headed many of them are in there. That is a very interesting statement coming from a professional.

    Some horses level headed no matter what dicipline they are trained for and others will always be slightly more hot. So it is best to look for the calmer ones when you are starting out, irrespective of breed or specific dicipline.
         
        10-15-2010, 11:37 AM
      #14
    Trained
    Woah, Woah, Woah - lets not generalize breeds here and horses who do particular sports. I've seen jut as many level headed competative mounts in compareson to just as many "skitzo" mounts too...if that's the word you want to use *rolls eyes*

    Actually, I dislike that term "Skitzo". Lets not point fingers at Eventers here guys. And I greatly disagree that Jumper are "Skitzo" too. If the mounts are in either discipline - I'd point my fingers at the riders, not the horses for the cause.

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    Back to the OP's question - any horse that can do the job, regardless of breed, will make a suitable mount for the sport.

    I used to Event a Mule for pete's sake! If you get along with the horse, if the horse is conformationally sound, and if the horse has the heart and the soul and the want to do it - then that's your perfect mount.

    I've seen horses come out of the Kill Pen, do phenominally well. I've seen bald appaloosa's do phenominally well and I've seen well bred TB's do horribly. I've seen your "ooh la la" warmbloods to horribly as well, and I've seen then do great.

    It doesn't matter the breed! What matters is the heart, the soul and the conformation.
         
        10-15-2010, 11:51 AM
      #15
    Green Broke
    ^^I wasn't trying to say ALL eventers are hot, just illustrating that not all level headed horses are eventers and all SJ's are hot (or skitzo?!) which was the original statement.

    I would never say bad things about eventers!!! The horses I evented were well behaved in the start box as are many others. I just wanted to dispell the myth that horses of certain diciplines have the same temperament.
         
        10-15-2010, 12:01 PM
      #16
    Green Broke
    Sarahver, I think MIE was referring to Corporate Pride's post.
         
        10-15-2010, 12:27 PM
      #17
    Foal
    My favourite X breed is TB x irish draught....they make fantastic jumpers...a combination of substance and calmness to combat the finely bred TB's hot blood and lack of substance....The combination is a fantastic scopey jumper with a level head...This used to be a very popular choice for show jumpers but has almost been replaced by our warmbloods...
    But as already said...breed isnt a key factor, most horses will take you round decent sized courses comfortably....

    Saskia...warmbloods do tend to be big strong and not novice rides...My mare is 17hh and can at times pull like a train...other times though she is so soft...x
         
        10-15-2010, 01:34 PM
      #18
    Green Broke
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by upnover    
    sarahver, I think MIE was referring to Corporate Pride's post.
    Oh that's OK then, didn't want my message to be misconstrued
         
        10-15-2010, 06:25 PM
      #19
    Trained
    Yeah, I was talking about Corporate Prides post :) no worries.
         
        10-15-2010, 09:03 PM
      #20
    Weanling
    Wow! It was just an opinion of a showjumping instructor.
    I don't necessarily agree with it and it's not "all" horses are in a catagory.
    Just like tb's are not all in a catagory. I've had the skitzo horse, she was a tb and all I could get her to concentrate on was showjumping, my level headed eventer is a tb and people give me weird looks coz the horse I wear spurs onbut he needs a stronger bit for xc.
    The QH one I was told they were down hill, I wasn't sure of that. I very rarely see QH's doing anything but western riding were i'm from, I see plenty of X breeds.
    I'm sorry I stirred up some hot blood and i'll just keep my opinions and my instructor at home.

    Sorry
         

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