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        10-27-2011, 07:00 PM
      #21
    Trained
    MySerenity, I was talking about this with DuffyDuck earlier, and said the same thing. If a horse is going to keep its brain between its ears and work for you - when it knows perfectly well what you are asking of it, little different when you're first teaching them how to lunge - then its lunging session is going to be shorter and its not going to sweat up as much.
    But if said horse is going to go ballistic on the lunge, then I have no qualms in lunging until it's brain is firmly back in it's head, and if that means horse is lathered, then so be it, but I am not accepting behavious like that on the lunge, when the bridle is on, it means work time.
         
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        10-27-2011, 07:40 PM
      #22
    Trained
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by MySerenity    
    My mom always says that "Horses sweat, men perspire & women glow" hehe...
    Guess your Mom never met my mare. Mia believes she is a princess.

    Correction: The Princess!

    A princess doesn't sweat. Ever. And I'm not sure what that white stuff is on her at the end of a workout...Soap? Sugar? Dunno...but NOT sweat! But she might be "glowing" - glowing like the sun - I'll tell her about your Mom.
         
        10-27-2011, 09:25 PM
      #23
    Yearling
    My horse sweats every time I ride her seriously. And when I went to a dressage barn for a lesson, their horses looked like they'd been hosed down they were so sweaty! XD
         
        10-27-2011, 10:44 PM
      #24
    Super Moderator
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by bsms    
    I plan to go jogging today. I'm south of Tucson, and I'm going to sweat. Guess I'm cruel.

    Besides, if it is a mare, she doesn't sweat. She perspires. There is nothing mean about perspiring.

    And I am NOT chubby. I'm just prosperous...
    If you are really prosperous, the term is "fluffy".
         
        10-27-2011, 11:09 PM
      #25
    Trained
    Well, the first thing I did with Aires was teach him how to lunge. However, it was NEVER about making him sweat or tiring him out. It was about getting him to listen. We still lunge for a few minutes before we ride. Why? To make sure he's ready to listen. It helps me (confidence is still a wee bit rattled from my accident) and it helps get him into the right frame of mind to work. Now it usually only takes about five minutes in the round pen before he is listening perfectly and we can go ride.

    Would I ever work with a horse that I couldn't lunge before I rode it? Most definitely not. It creates respect between the rider and horse. Plus, you can see if your horse is off at any of their gaits before you ever get on them.
         
        10-27-2011, 11:22 PM
      #26
    Trained
    The intention is not to make them sweat, but to have them working correctly and working the right muscles without a rider on their back. If they sweat in the process, so what? They sweat under saddle, they sweat in the paddock. They don't get fit unless you work them to the point of raising their heart rate and yes, breaking a sweat. Just like people. You don't increase your fitness and strength going for a light stroll and quitting before you get puffed
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        10-28-2011, 12:23 AM
      #27
    Trained
    Hmmm...I've got to remember that.

    "How far are you going to run today?"

    "Oh, enough to get puffed!"

    I would hate to quit before I got puffed...
         
        10-28-2011, 02:42 AM
      #28
    Green Broke
    Oh the posts just got worse. I'm cruel for having a flash, riding as a sport and not a happy hacker (I have no issues against happy hackers, I just enjoy dressage..or attempting it!), wearing spurs, in my pictures Duffy looks uncomfortable. I was like pick on me all you want girl, but don't you dare, DARE bring my horse in to this! Yes, my horse is abused, I didn't do a semi rescue by getting her out of the hell hole she was in, and I really, really want to keep her with all her ribs on show. Not.

    I love the level minded people in here, it makes everything right in the world xD

    Funnily enough, the topic was labelled Horses sweat, men pespire and ladies glow and it was an initial post to see how much work horses do and this woman picks through everyyy littlleee thingg I sayyyy. Okay so people come for advice, I give them what works for me, and a fair few other people! They can do what they like with it. But leave my Duffy duck out of it >(

    Oh. And I have to wash my saddlecloth every two days as its SOAKED with sweat. Don't know how I'm going to cope in winter.. maybe I should get them to install a heated towel rail ;D
         
        10-29-2011, 04:29 PM
      #29
    Foal
    This all seems a bit out of hand really. None of us have actually seen this horse being worked into a sweat, none of us have seen the tactics used. I cannot comment on the rights or wrongs of it without seeing it myself. After all fitter horses sweat more. Fact.
         
        10-31-2011, 12:22 PM
      #30
    Green Broke
    Glad we're all in agreement. I keep waiting for somebody to say this...so I guess I'll point it out. If you lunge ONLY to blow off steam and it becomes habitual, your horse is going to gain strength and stamina. You'll have to keep lunging longer to wear him out, bc he won't wear out as easily--it becomes a vicious circle!

    It reminds me of the story in "Band of Brothers." The 101st Airborne had this vindictive officer in charge of their basic training. He looked for infractions EVERYWHERE, and would make the men jog up Curahee (Mountain) in full pack whenever they broke his rules. These guys were so fit that when they started jump training they were wearing out the jump training officers, and not breaking a sweat!

    Horses have a cardiovascular system 25x as efficient as ours. There is NO WAY that you can compete with that. We must use our brains when we train. If it were simple and boring, I wouldn't want to do it.
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