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    04-17-2012, 11:54 PM
  #1
Foal
Riding the canter in half seat

Officially started lessons again today after a 3 month break... Woohoo! I'm feling the burn...
Anyways, I have never really gotten how to sit the canter the right way, every time I try to sit it I bounce and feel out of control. Today I tried riding I half seat where I am not quite in 2 point, but not sitting it either. It was soooo much easier to ride the canter and keep control. So my question is, is it okay to use half seat the whole time? I am jumping cross rails right now but this summer I will probably be doing some small hunter courses.
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    04-18-2012, 02:15 AM
  #2
Foal
Noo! It will become a really bad habit. I rode a lunatic for a few years and I got this bad habit because he was so much more quiet when I was off his back. He was an exceptional horse however. Also, it won't look right in the show ring. I love riding in a half seat, I feel I have such a soft connection with my horse, but that is probably from the four years I rode the lunatic(I call him that very endearingly). You need this for the approach to a jump and the canter. Don't feel bad - my TWO dressage lessons from my old boss I was almost physically and mentally incapable of SITTING in the seat during canter like they do!!
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    04-18-2012, 02:29 AM
  #3
Weanling
Riding in a safe place (round pen or small arena) with no stirrups for a while should really help. It helps you to gain a good seat without depending on your stirrups to keep you on your horse.
     
    04-18-2012, 05:13 AM
  #4
Trained
I would not start jumping until you are solid at the canter to be honest. You need the seat and leg to be competent enough to jump.
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    04-18-2012, 05:55 AM
  #5
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by Chiilaa    
I would not start jumping until you are solid at the canter to be honest. You need the seat and leg to be competent enough to jump.

This 100%.

You need to keep practising over, and over and over. One day it'll just click, but I'd suggest getting flatwork lessons.
     
    04-18-2012, 08:20 AM
  #6
Banned
I agree with all of the above.

If you can't ride a canter on a balanced, three point seat, you are at a much higher risk of being unseated if your horse stumbles, refuses, shies, or runs out on approach to a jump.

Not a good place to be in.
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    04-18-2012, 08:57 AM
  #7
Showing
OP, spending more time in 2 point at the walk and trot will help your leg at the canter. I wouldn't continue in 2 point at the canter because you have to be able to sit it as you are safer and that's how you drive them forward (seat, then leg)

Also you're much less stable without your seat bones on the horse. Did you know you can stay on a horse without arms or legs? Now if your seat bones aren't on the horse, how are you going to stay on if things get hairy?

Please be safe! Lunge line lessons at the canter will help you lots.
     
    04-18-2012, 09:08 AM
  #8
Banned
Yes, it is absolutely all right to use half seat at your stage of riding.

Many hunt seat/forward seat riders do not learn to ride the canter in a full, following seat until much later in their riding educations.

In the 70s and 80s, sitting the canter in a full seat was not taught to hunt seat riders at all, and was actually discouraged.

At some point you may want to log the time on a lunge line and master that skill and add it to your repetoire, as it's a good thing to have in your bag of tricks, but you're fine for now.
     
    04-18-2012, 01:10 PM
  #9
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Hunt seat equitation values a really "quiet and pretty" ride. As a result, they will often adopt a shallower seat at canter. A straight and still back is much more attractive than a deeper "busier" seat. You will see this shallower seat in almost all hunt seat classes.

Dressage riders will have the deeper seat at the canter. To do this you must have an extremely soft (and strong) set of abdominal muscles. They must be able to move forward and backward with every movement of the horse at the canter, absorbing all of the up and down of the movement. If your back is stiff, at all, you will be unable to move enough to absorb this movement. You also have to be in a more upright position to unlock the seats ability to move forward. This forward movement will be somewhat blocked in the more forward hunt seat position.


At 5:57 you can see the movement necessary to sit the canter

     
    04-18-2012, 01:28 PM
  #10
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by Allison Finch    
Hunt seat equitation values a really "quiet and pretty" ride. As a result, they will often adopt a shallower seat at canter. A straight and still back is much more attractive than a deeper "busier" seat. You will see this shallower seat in almost all hunt seat classes.

Dressage riders will have the deeper seat at the canter. To do this you must have an extremely soft (and strong) set of abdominal muscles. They must be able to move forward and backward with every movement of the horse at the canter, absorbing all of the up and down of the movement. If your back is stiff, at all, you will be unable to move enough to absorb this movement. You also have to be in a more upright position to unlock the seats ability to move forward. This forward movement will be somewhat blocked in the more forward hunt seat position.


At 5:57 you can see the movement necessary to sit the canter

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