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    10-14-2010, 09:36 PM
  #1
Foal
Riding Help!

I poseted this thread in the general riding area but I believe it belongs here. :)

Sometimes when I ride I notice some people seem to almost post during a canter. What is this called? When would you use it? Also, I am wondering when you would need to know how to hand gallop. I am hoping to enter higher level shows in the future and was wondering if I would ever need to learn how to do them. People are starting to tell me to count my strides going into jumps, how do I do that?

Thanks for your help :)
     
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    10-14-2010, 10:31 PM
  #2
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I have never seen anything like posting at the canter. Must be that they are riding the canter in two point and since they are moving with the horse, maybe their "butt" is going up and down a bit too much. Odd.
     
    10-14-2010, 10:36 PM
  #3
Green Broke
Posting to the canter sounds like the people ae not that great of riders. When people do this it's usually when they first start of and they don't put their weight into their bottom and they start rising.

I'm not to sure about the hand gallop but I'm pretty sure it's used in hunter type classes, I think you would probably want to learn it once you have mastered all other gaits and your horse listens to you.

Counting your strides is easy once you get the hang of it, it becomes like second nature. All you have to do start by saying it out loud and if your trotting count how many times you rise, cantering is a bit more difficult I sort of just feel for the strides... maybe someone else has a better idea
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    10-14-2010, 10:44 PM
  #4
Foal
Thank you :)
     
    10-14-2010, 10:50 PM
  #5
Green Broke
Or it may be from 2-point I didn't think of that
     
    10-14-2010, 11:25 PM
  #6
Weanling
I think what you're seeing is these riders cantering in light seat, where they're just hovering over the saddle and their butt will actually touch the seat. You'll see this in hunters and Eventing a lot.
As for when learning the hand gallop, once you've got the other gaits down, if you show in the hunters especially the higher level, they may ask you to do this in one of the tests.
Counting the strides, RedTree hit the nail on the head!
     
    10-14-2010, 11:32 PM
  #7
Green Broke
It depends on what you're talking about. There are some people who simply don't canter well and bounce around. (bounce up and down instead of moving with the canter) :) There are certain disciplines (like luvs2jump said) that jump more off the half seat. Hopefully the rider's seat is quiet, but I think it's easy to get into the bad habit of not being still. (I've heard of it refered to as the "hunter hula" or even "butt circles")
But there are people who actually post at the canter. I think it's strange and uncomfortable but I know a few trainers who teach their young kids to post at the canter (supposedly makes cantering easier for them) or post the canter themselves (supposed to help a horse regulate his pace, just like posting at the trot can).

A hand gallop is nothing more then a fast canter (the challenge is doing it well). Sometimes they'll ask for it in an (H/J) equitation flat class, or sometimes in a handy hunter, classic, derby, or eq round they'll ask you to hand gallop a fence. I was at some breed show (Arab nationals?) and in some flat class they asked for it. And I think foxhunters/eventers hand gallop during the long stretches.

As you get more advanced in your jumping you'll be able to eye a fence and be able to tell how many strides out you are. Comes with time, practice, and riding the approach well.
     
    10-16-2010, 06:43 PM
  #8
Foal
Someone posting at the canter would mean they are a bouncy type riding. That is no riding form, unless your talking about two pointing which would be hand galloping.

Hand galloping: I go to Arab shows, flat classes, and they always ask for a hand-gallop. Hand galloping would be a bit faster pas then a canter, while two-pointing. You want use the hand-gallop once you have mastered the canter and other gaits. (:

Any questions just let me know!
     
    10-16-2010, 11:33 PM
  #9
Green Broke
Actually, posting the canter is widly done, many GP show jumpers do it. I sometimes do it as I'm trying to bring the horse down and back underneath me, but otherwise, I have 4 other seats to be riding in!

A hand gallop is really just a fast canter, you should be up in two point and basically just urge the horse to move forward more. I wouldn't try it until you're completly confident at every other gait.

And to set one thing strait, most eventers gallop the entire course of XC unless you're going to a bank or a combo.
     

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