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    08-31-2011, 11:28 PM
  #11
Weanling
I was taught posting trot first when I started English lessons but I have a western background so technically I learned a sitting trot first. I find it harder to sit a trot in an English saddle.
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    09-01-2011, 12:15 AM
  #12
Showing
Huh, that is interesting. I always wondered because I started with the sitting trot first (of course at like 4 or 5, I just basically kept my hands glued to the saddle horn and giggled my ass off until the horse stopped on his own). Shoot, I didn't start posting the trot until I was in my teens and ended up with my first really rough riding horse. Even now, it's tougher for me to post correctly than it is just to sit unless the horse is exceptionally rough riding. I guess it's more what you're used to and what you are taught that dictates what's tougher for you LOL.
     
    09-01-2011, 12:39 AM
  #13
Trained
If someone is flexible (kids) and using a western saddle, then sitting the trot can be done the first time they ride. I told my daughter-in-law (25) to grab the horn if needed and just bounce & smile. Within an hour, she was sitting the trot.

It took me TWO YEARS. 40 years of regular jogging had my legs so tight that I couldn't really sink into the saddle. In the end, I had to lengthen my stirrup a hole every couple of weeks until I could barely touch the stirrups, and then ride like that for a few months. Even now, I need about 5 minutes of warming up at a walk to loosen up my legs.

Also, I find it my harder to sit the trot in my Bates English saddle than either an Aussie or Western saddle. Don't know if that is because of the CAIR panels, shape of the saddle or what. Sometimes the Bates feels like it is stuffed with rubber...
     
    09-01-2011, 12:44 AM
  #14
Foal
Definitely posting trot first. That's what I was taught, I've been to at least three barns, and did the posting trot first at all of them. I'm especially a fan of posting trot without your stirrups or saddle. It really helps with your seat and balance!
     
    09-01-2011, 05:58 AM
  #15
Trained
I prefer to post in an English saddle but I find it very difficult in a Western! Is that just me or is it common? Same horse, just different saddles.
     
    09-01-2011, 06:35 AM
  #16
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Originally Posted by smrobs    
Huh, that is interesting. I always wondered because I started with the sitting trot first (of course at like 4 or 5, I just basically kept my hands glued to the saddle horn and giggled my ass off until the horse stopped on his own). Shoot, I didn't start posting the trot until I was in my teens and ended up with my first really rough riding horse. Even now, it's tougher for me to post correctly than it is just to sit unless the horse is exceptionally rough riding. I guess it's more what you're used to and what you are taught that dictates what's tougher for you LOL.
But you grew up riding western. You asked how it is taught when one learns to ride English. Any lesson program I have witnessed that teaches western does not even teach posting.

With the little peanuts (like you were when you started riding) it really does not matter. Their first trotting experience is kind of like what you describe. They are not going to hurt the pony's back bouncing around up there.

Learning posting first is just as much for the lesson horse as it is for the rider. As has been pointed out, learning to sit with out pounding the horse's back can be a difficult thing. Learning posting first also gives the bonus of the rider learning to feel the rhythm of the horse.
     
    09-01-2011, 06:42 AM
  #17
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Originally Posted by smrobs    
Huh, that is interesting. I always wondered because I started with the sitting trot first (of course at like 4 or 5, I just basically kept my hands glued to the saddle horn and giggled my ass off until the horse stopped on his own).
Well.. That's actually not a true "sitting trot" in english (although I don't see a problem when little kids do it). It's "not able to post". BUT you also ride western so "no posting" is quite general as far as I understand plus western horse's trot (jog) is very different from, say, TB trot (which is huge at times).

On side note "posting" definitely doesn't come in one lesson. So every beginner I've seen does go through "sitting trot" stage till he/she learns how to post. And I agree with AB, it also helps a lot to feel the "rhythm" of the horse.
     
    09-01-2011, 07:13 AM
  #18
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Good points KV.

The lesson horses I have seen that do western type lessons are very capable of shuffling along at a slow jog/trot that just about anyone could sit to and not bounce (and I am not saying they are peanut roller show quality go no where jogs).

Even the kick to go English lesson horses seem to have bounce to their slow sitting trot.
     
    09-01-2011, 11:34 AM
  #19
Trained
Just a western note: The lady who teaches my 13 year old daughter daughter her posting first in a western saddle. Also, western horses trot at all speeds, not just slow jogs.

Although I started riding for real at 50, I had a few lessons from an old cowboy when I was 20. He said the purpose of trotting is to cover ground without wearing out your horse. Walking was too slow, and loping too tiring...so trot. And FWIW, he wanted me to post so my horse would be fresher when I got to where I was going. And no diagonals...he thought trotting was meant to go somewhere, not for doing circles.
     
    09-01-2011, 11:38 AM
  #20
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Originally Posted by bsms    
Also, western horses trot at all speeds, not just slow jogs.
I think we are all well aware of this fact. Western horses who do real ranch work like Smrobs' uses for sure trot at a pace that requires posting.

The question implies a lesson setting, not a working ranch setting and most western lesson horses are able to jog, which works well for sitting. That was the point. Not that western horses can only go one pace.
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