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        12-25-2011, 06:08 PM
      #21
    Foal
    It does look better than the one I go to at the moment. My mum is still not to keen on moving stables though as she wants to give my one another chance and says we won't do anything until we've talked to the stable owner next riding lesson.
         
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        12-26-2011, 12:19 PM
      #22
    Foal
    I've spent a while looking for a horse to loan, its very hard to find one that is free and suitable for people that aren't really experienced. If an advert says the horse needs a "confident novice", would that not be me? It says that in this ad: Preloved | 15.1hh welsh d happy hacker for part loan to rent in New Ollerton, Newark, UK

    I wouldn't be able to do that loan though as it would cost £20 a month
         
        12-26-2011, 06:30 PM
      #23
    Yearling
    I always suggest that you learn to have a go at everything before specialising in any discipline. I see young riders at Pony Club really missing out on so much fun because they or their parents decide they need to specialise.

    From the day you get on the horse for the first time you are learning dressage - dresage is all about schooling and having the horse obedient and light to your aids. A well schooled horse is a pleasure to ride and all schooling improves the way the horse goes in other disciplines.

    Horses requiring a confident rider are often those that may be a little tricky - this may just be because the horse is a bit sharp, may like to shy at its shadow or it may like to jog or reef or go strong out on a ride. It may also have worse problems that only a confident rider can deal with.

    Currently you are confident because you are riding kind horses that are understanding of the needs of a novice rider. What you don't want to happen is to find yourself on a horse that says "NO I don't want to hack out down the road" Confidence can be shattered very easily by one stroppy horse.
         
        12-26-2011, 10:34 PM
      #24
    Showing
    When they say "requires confident rider" as long as YOU are confident you can get on this horse and ride, you're golden. If you feel you could be more confident, then obviously not the horse to ride.

    Just make sure you're honest with yourself :)
         
        12-27-2011, 07:07 AM
      #25
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Tnavas    
    Currently you are confident because you are riding kind horses that are understanding of the needs of a novice rider. What you don't want to happen is to find yourself on a horse that says "NO I don't want to hack out down the road" Confidence can be shattered very easily by one stroppy horse.
    Sometimes im not confident though, when I was put on Nelly I was really nervous as the had bit me when I was tacking her up, she was really sensitive to rein contact and then, maybe because I was so nervous, she bucked me off when we were trotting. Its probably best I don't go on a horse that needs a confident rider.

    The reason I would like to do dressage is to be able to do things properly as the stables that I go to sometimes tell me conflicting things, especially as I have different instructors. For example, I have been told when going into canter that I should put my outside leg behind the girth, that I should keep my legs where they are and that I should move my legs forward by three different people.

    How can I create a horse that is light to aids when we are told to give a big kick before giving a squeeze? One girl in my lesson was on a horse that doesn't like going into canter. She was told to give him a smack with the whip in walk so that he would wake up and canter nicely. Surely that doesn't teach him anything? Isn't that being punished for something he doesn't even know he was supposed to do?

    I have done jumping but I'm not that keen on it, especially as no one seems to be teaching me properly. At my fist stables I was doing three 2ft jumps in a row and I was lucky to be staying on my horse. Now at the currant stables when I am in a lesson with people that jump I am expected to be able to jump and when I am in a group with people that are learning to jump that is when I can learn about two point and positions.
         
        12-27-2011, 12:54 PM
      #26
    Yearling
    The correct aids for canter are - Sitting trot, Inside leg at the girth, Outside leg behind the girth, useing the outside one a little stronger to ask the horse to bring the outside hindleg forward first - this sets the sequence of legs in canter.

    Instructors often know the horses thay are teaching with well and the horse in question may be a little dead to the leg which is why the rider was told to use the whip. Horse has probebly been ignoring the riders aids all through the lesson.

    Talk to your instructor about your jumping level and a good instructor will go throught he correct position and build up to the bigger jumps or jumps in a row.
    For your jumping position, first take up your stirrups a couple of holes, this places your thigh ahead of you more and this will strengthen your position, fold your body forward from the hips, keeping your back straight, fold until your shoulders are in a vertical line with your knees and toes, you butt will need to move back a little. You will now need to shorten your reins to be able to keep your hands ahead of you. Make sure your eyes are up and looking beyond the jump. This is your basic well balanced jumping position, approach the jumps in this position, keep the horse moving forward and let the jump come to you.
         
        12-27-2011, 04:38 PM
      #27
    Foal
    Thanks for the advice.

    I don't think I will be doing jumping soon as I think it was just for a few lessons because of the other people that happened to be in my group, but when I do start doing jumps I will make sure I ask her before she sends us all off to go over the jumps.
         
        01-04-2012, 04:18 PM
      #28
    Foal
    I had my lesson today. My mum didn't want to say anything to them this lesson because I haven't been there in three weeks and they might have changed. No such luck. I was with the girl I am normally in a lesson with who is on the worst behaved horse ever. He will not go into canter without doing a running trot for two laps and bucking. Even when he is in canter she had to keep kicking him to keep him going!

    It's hard to know what to do, because I like the instructor I have at the moment because she is good at teaching and speaks clearly (I'm almost deaf in one ear so when my bad ear is on the inside I struggle to hear sometimes without turning my head) .The other two instructors that work at the stables are in their early 20's and are still learning how to teach and sometimes aren't good at giving feedback. The people I'm in the group with aren't working for me though. My mum said she might phone them up to ask if they have any other lessons that I can go into, but the risk with doing that is that I will end up with the not so good instructors. I have to choose between being in this group with a naughty pony but a good instructor or another group that might be better for me with a worse instructor.

    This lesson went well though (but I only did two laps of cantering ). My first canter was really good, my legs were in the right place, Charlie was slow and he didn't buck. The only thing that was bad was that he cut the corners. On the next canter it all went terrible because he knew we were going to canter so got all hyped up and was cantering before I had even got a nice trot. He went way to fast and I was bouncing all over the place. I keep getting told to pull back on the reins and that I won't hurt him but I know that it can hurt him so I don't like to pull back really hard.

    We also did loads of trotting and my ankle was really hurting after about 10 minutes! (it was ok once we stopped doing all the trotting though) Probably because I haven't ridden in so long.

    My mum is still not conviced we should change stables, and I feel bad half wanting to leave because I know that they are struggling for money, but if they won't train their horses to be responsive or won't move me to a group more my age and ability we might have to move.
         
        01-04-2012, 04:26 PM
      #29
    Showing
    Sounds like that girl's horse is in pain or is too green to be cantering... is it HER personal horse, or a school horse?

    Also.. I don't think kicking the tar out of a horse to keep it going will help the bucking either, gotta use your seat :/

    Well done on you though! The second time your horse was expecting it to happen so he sped up to 'fall' into the canter and probably because he was excited after seeing the other horse, too..

    I'm sure it'll get better cantering the horse for you :)

    Maybe your mom is seeing something you aren't.. that is worth staying put with. Also, it's not the quantity of cantering, it's the quality. The more quality happens, the longer you can stick with it.
         
        01-05-2012, 12:46 PM
      #30
    Foal
    The horse she rides is a school horse. He won't move unless he is kicked, he hates going into canter. I don't know how old he is so he might be green, a lot of the horses people are put on are quite young. I was once on a 5 year old for a few lessons.

    At school I am friend's with a girl who rides Charlie and she said she rode him the other day and he was bucking and even reared, and she was talking about it like it was fun to be on a horse that's bucking. She said when he bucks, she smacks him with the whip, and if he bucks again, then she smacks him again and she keeps doing that until he stops bucking. Is that the right thing to do?

    Charlie is really bad a bucking/kicking. When I do the girth up he kicks so someone has to stand with me and hits him with a whip when he does that.

    I suppose it is quality not quantity, but when I am told that I need to improve something, I want to try out the advice but I have to wait a whole week to do so.
         

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