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post #21 of 27 Old 07-24-2011, 03:29 PM
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I always get on a horse without spurs, if I don't know the horse that well, of course. But, come to find, some have just always been ridden with spurs, and respond only to that. They've become ingnorant to the leg, and spur is really all they know. (Lesson horses)

My own gelding, moves fine off of leg and seat, but sometimes for more advanced flatting, he needs a little extra. I own half inch knob spurs, and one inch knob spurs. I primarily just always use the half inch. That's all he really needs. I rarely have to actually touch the spur to him, but as long as he knows they're there, he moves off nicer.
He gets flat out spaztic with a crop.

So, spurs can be a touchy subject, and are very easy to mis-use but I don't look at a person with spurs on, and think their horse has issues.

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post #22 of 27 Old 07-25-2011, 07:37 AM
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i ride ozzie in spurs all the time, he is igorant to your leg. he's also sooooo lazy LOL
i stopped riding in spurs for a 6 month period bc i had this insane theory that i didn't need them, my instructors at pony club told me to put spurs on him bc he's barely trotting, my legs were dead!!! put the spurs back on, he didn't lazy around.
i do dressage, showjumping, cross country and bush riding in them. he was always strong in the bush and xc and fine in showjumping but i wore them bc he doesn't listen to the leg, he would go out xc and would lug around corners and go sideways without spurs, put spurs on he acutally turns. out in the bush he get strong and full of himself and is forward but wiouth spurs won't turn or listen to your leg. he would run sideways straight into another horse that was in the way while he's jogging and carrying on without spurs, with spurs you could steer him around the other horse.
also they are really good for his higher up dressage movements that require him to actually MOVE LOL

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post #23 of 27 Old 07-25-2011, 08:46 AM
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Someone once told me this and I really like it. Spurs are nothing more than an extension of your leg. So you will not spur a horse unless you turn you heal in. You should not turn your heal in unless you need more reach or pressure. Spurs do not always mean go forward. Sometimes it can mean back or stop. So I am getting to a point. If you are comfortable with them and you are using them for a good reason do not worry about others trainer or not. There are several different ways to get the end result you want in the horse world. Most people think that their way is the right and best way. Just remember to keep learning and moving forward and you will be ok.
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post #24 of 27 Old 07-25-2011, 09:07 AM
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I rarely use spurs when first putting a horse under saddle. On my more experienced horses, I will often use a spur. If I don't need it, I simply press with the inside of my leg. If I need more response I will turn my foot out and barely press it into them. I almost never kick with a spur. I agree that a spur is an extension of the leg and not to be used in lieu of the leg.

As for a whip....I remember Jack LeGoff once tell me.."a good rider always carries a whip...and never uses it".
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post #25 of 27 Old 07-25-2011, 09:59 AM
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I ride in a tiny POW spur. Tiny enough that I physically have to move my leg and point my toe out to actually apply the spur. Since this is the first time I've worn spurs, I much prefer it this way...no inadverdant poking.

BUT, I also don't "nag" with my leg/spur either. If I don't get a response with a squeeze or a nudge...I apply my crop smartly behind my leg. Doesn't take long for a horse to learn to listen to your leg this way. I normally only need to do this every few lessons on the school horse I ride.

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post #26 of 27 Old 07-25-2011, 10:57 PM
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I ride almost every horse in spurs, unless they are green. On most horses i don't use them at all; and even when i do it is more often for lateral work than impulsion. I love my spurs.
Crops just don't work on some horses. My horse will get you off his back if you are holding one and it touches him; in spurs he goes like a champ.
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post #27 of 27 Old 07-27-2011, 11:20 PM
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I have trained for ten years in the Hunter/Jumper world, and one in the Dressage. I have used spurs in both, but more so in Dressage. My trainer taught me a fantastic lesson with spurs: it forces your lower leg into the proper position if you do not need to use them on your horse. By rolling your knee and inner thigh inwards, you have better control of your position as well as contact. Spurs also allow you to be more subtle with your aids and cues. It is a much more pleasant look when you can simply nudge your horse for the upward transition instead of swinging your lower leg out in order to sharply "urge" him along.
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