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    02-11-2012, 03:20 PM
  #11
Trained
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Originally Posted by mildot    
It works exactly the same way. In fact, the aid is called the same.

However, with contact an indirect rein of opposition is merely brought across and over the withers so that there is a direct line from that rein to the opposite hind leg. No need to raise it under normal circumstances. Though you could raise it if you need to adjust the neck.

I have never heard that you should ever cross your rein over the withers...

OP I personally would not use spurs on a greenie, I think spurs are for refinement in advanced movements only. But if you and your trainer think its the right thing for you and your horse, I wont tell you that you can't.
     
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    02-11-2012, 07:23 PM
  #12
Foal
Another question then say if I was to wear spurs I've always being taught that for an upward transition you apply the leg aid slightly behind the girth so would that not mean I'd be using the spur everytime I ask for an upwards transition.
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    02-11-2012, 07:28 PM
  #13
Weanling
Lynnie, if you are using your leg properly even when wearing spurs you wont be using the spurs every time you ask your horse for something with your leg. Definitely make sure if you do put the spurs on that the part you use on the horse is pointed down NOT up!
Also, I believe you can do an indirect rein during English riding (meaning crossing the neck towards the opposite hind with the inside rein). Or at least that is how I was taught!
     
    02-11-2012, 07:31 PM
  #14
Trained
You can do an indirect, but I have always been taught that you never want to cross your hand over to the other side of the neck.
     
    02-11-2012, 07:39 PM
  #15
Weanling
I supose cross the neck may be a little dramatic sounding for the actual rein aid since its more like over the neck and in that general direction. You are really nit-picking this to death lol
     
    02-12-2012, 02:28 PM
  #16
Banned
I have ridden for a long time, and for some reason really resisted riding in spurs until this year. Since riding in them now, I can't believe I was such an idiot for resisting for so long, as you don't have to engage the spur at all, you use the side of your foot if you don't want to use them.

These are the ones I ride in. The ball means that it rolls on the horses side and is not as easy to jab into them.

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    02-12-2012, 02:37 PM
  #17
Green Broke
Spurs are ment for refinement of an aid not to substitue for improper schooling.

I firmly believe that if you can't do it without spurs then you have no business useing spurs.
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    02-12-2012, 03:11 PM
  #18
Foal
I would just like to point out that it's not her fault she was never taught to bend and is only starting to learn. My trainer just thought that spurs would help the process.
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    02-12-2012, 03:22 PM
  #19
Green Broke
You do not need spurs to teach a horse to bend.

I have successfully reschooled horses who where as stiff as planks without ever using spurs.

My current baby is learning to bend and we do have an issue on the right rein. It just means that I need to get him bending properly, lots and lots of circles, serpintines and turns.

Try putting 2 cones or blocks or jump wings in the school (as though you were setting up a jump but with no poles) bend her around it on each rein asking her to bend through her entire body and get her as close and tight to it as possible, you are aiming for her to start yielding her hind end and starting to almost do a turn on the forehand, then start doing a figure of 8 tight to the wings.
Change rein quite often.
Anouther exercise to teach bending is called the celtic knot Using a 5m circle as your centre point set up 3 poled radiating out from the circle to form an equalatteral triangle. Once you have that set up then you want to do almost a celtic knot type shape, over the centre of one pole, round the outside edge of the next, over the centre of the next etc, change rein and keep doing it.
(if that isnt very clear I will try and draw a picture)
     
    02-12-2012, 03:56 PM
  #20
Green Broke
Here is a picture of the celtic knot exercise
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