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post #31 of 34 Old 11-14-2013, 08:13 PM
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Horses that don't 'go' either had muddy training or too low/onto the forehand/out of balance. So the rider's job is to EDUCATE THE HORSE to the use of the leg. That starts ON THE GROUND. Work the horse in hand, touch the horse where the leg would be (with the hand/with the whip); that touch is PROGRESSIVE. Touching (with the whip) is touch/vibrate/TWACK. Very rarely does the rider have to do that more than a few times and the horse WILL learn.

With a green(er) horse, the noise of a bat on the shoulder WILL send the horse forward, and which point the rider combines that with a touch of the leg. The horse MUST be allowed to come up/open/active (NO 'shaping the horse'/making it rounder yet. For an older horse the whip is used behind the CALF (NOT not on the butt) and the rider must NOT get left behind/grab the mouth/stop the horses reaction. Again, touch/vibrate/thwack. No horse should take more than two or three times to learn that IF the rider's actions are CLEAR.

The spur is NOT for forward, it is for specific action/nuance.
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post #32 of 34 Old 11-14-2013, 08:27 PM
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This Topic on spurs seems to have turned more into a discussion of crops/whips
I seldom use a crop when riding,only really use on a horse that is early in their training & not ready for spurs. To enforce my cue to move forward if they are not moving out or off enough from your leg alone. I find the applying the crop to contact were you want can inhibit the rider from keeping there hands & seat correct as well as with keeping your horse correct/straight in their movement. I had to resort to one with my youngster I'm just breaking now. After asking her with my legs if she didn't pick it up a notch got a pop from the crop to wake her & have her move out forward with more effort. Only took a couple reminders not to ignore my leg cues. Next ride she moved out appropriately when ask from just the cues from my leg & seat. I much prefer not fumbling around with some crop,spurs are much easier to refine cues & apply to the appropriate area. I also show several of my horses & crops are not allowed when riding. Use of whips in schooling on ground fine,but using when riding not my thing
Maybe the use of crops vs spurs tend to follow with the riding styles/discipline. Use of spurs are seen more with western riding, crops are basically just seen in your Gymkhana events.Unlike English riding were crops are seen used more.
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post #33 of 34 Old 11-15-2013, 03:22 AM
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I agree that spurs seem to be used more with western riding and crops with English. Grew up riding English....only used a crop....as did my riding buddies. Transitioned to Western later in life and now I own me some sparkley spurs.....just like all the other cowgirls....lol. ;)

They think its hysterical that I wear a helmet!! Cant imagine the flack I'd catch if I broke out the crop.....lol
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post #34 of 34 Old 11-22-2013, 05:44 PM Thread Starter
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Wtwg--I think the other issue here is that spurs are much easier to abuse if your leg is not strong enough/if you are too novice of a rider. Whips are a bit more foolproof.
As I've already said, I am not a "novice" rider. I simply have not used spurs before, for ideological reasons, if you will.
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