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    01-22-2009, 05:19 PM
  #11
Weanling
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Originally Posted by Equuestriaan    
Thanks for the information and pictures! I ride English. As for the sitting trot, I haven't gone bareback in years but I have found when I drop my stirrups it's a lot easier to sit, so maybe it has something to do with how I am putting my weight in my heels in the stirrups.
That sounds right to me. It's easier to sit the sitting trot when your leg is long and your heel is down, so try putting your stirrup down one hole-like fozzie said- and really stretching your heel down. Move with the horse, too...sit deep..etc, etc. (:
     
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    01-22-2009, 05:36 PM
  #12
Yearling
What I would suggest is if your going to start using spurs, don't use them when ur trying to learn the sitting trot until you get it down really well or in the process you'll make your horse become deadened even to the spur and may agitate him with the consistent rubbing and bumping while your trying to learn the sitting trot.

I'm not trying to be mean or anything I just don't want you to cause another problem you'll have to fix in the future.
     
    01-22-2009, 06:30 PM
  #13
Weanling
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Originally Posted by FoxyRoxy1507    
what I would suggest is if your going to start using spurs, don't use them when ur trying to learn the sitting trot until you get it down really well or in the process you'll make your horse become deadened even to the spur and may agitate him with the consistent rubbing and bumping while your trying to learn the sitting trot.

I'm not trying to be mean or anything I just don't want you to cause another problem you'll have to fix in the future.
I don't think my instructor would have told me to use spurs if she didn't think I could use them properly, but I see your point. I'm not really new to the sitting trot, but I recently switched to a rather bumpy horse after years of sitting the trot on an amazingly smooth pony! Lol.
     
    01-22-2009, 07:27 PM
  #14
Foal
To make the sitting trot less bouncy, close your leg, close your hands, and straighten your back. It collects the trot. Start with closing your leg so the horse doesn't break, then close your hand to slow the trot down, but keep your leg on. It works for me.
     
    01-22-2009, 07:37 PM
  #15
Green Broke
Riding with spurs is a little different and it takes a little getting used to. The smaller the spur, the easier it is to use. No, you would not be kicking your horse. Just remember that they are a reinforcement to your leg, just like a crop is, but it's less noticable. So you ask your horse to do something with your leg nicely (then harder) and if your horse doesn't listen you can ask them with your spur. The hardest thing to learn is how to ride without accidently jabbing them when you don't mean to. Also make sure that your leg is very still with your toes forward. I've seen people rub spur marks by letting their leg swing or by riding with their toes out. Your instructor should be able to help you out quite a bit getting used to them.

There are millions of different kinds of spurs and I would recommend the smallest and roundest ones to start off with, like a Prince of Wales, I think it's called. I also like Impulse spurs. They have a little rolling ball on the end that is pretty gentle but I find that horses respond very well to that. The original Impulse spurs are kind of long (which is hard to get used to) so I'd go with the shorter ones. Some spurs come with straps, some don't. Most are black but get whatever color matches your boots. Usually they all come in adult and childrens sizes. As for fitting the spurs Spastic Dove posted a great picture. The metal slides around the back of your foot. One side of the "U" shape will be longer then the other. That part goes on the outside of your foot. Make sure the spur points DOWN (if it has an angle to it). It should be wide enough to easily slide on but not so wide that they are flopping up and down. You can pull the metal sides apart or push the sides together to make them fit your foot better.
Putting the straps on the spur can be hard to figure out. Just mess with them until you can figure out how make them go through the holes and have it buckle on top of your foot with the extra leather pointing out (away from the horse).
     
    01-22-2009, 09:11 PM
  #16
Weanling
Quote:
Originally Posted by Equuestriaan    
Thanks for the information and pictures! I ride English. As for the sitting trot, I haven't gone bareback in years but I have found when I drop my stirrups it's a lot easier to sit, so maybe it has something to do with how I am putting my weight in my heels in the stirrups.
Yup. I was going to suggest dropping your stirrups. I think it works because it makes you sink deep into the saddle and really wrap your legs around the horse, as opposed to balancing in your stirrups. Once you get how it feels on that horse, it will be easier to sit down with your stirrups.

As for the spurs, you shouldn't need to kick with them on, but if you find you do, you should use the side of your foot/leg, as opposed to turning your heel into the horse, so as not to kick the spur into the horse. To apply the spur, you don't want to kick so much as turn your heel into the horses flank and apply a little pressure. A little goes a long way! Sometimes, just knowing you have them on is enough to make a horse more peppy.
     
    01-22-2009, 09:47 PM
  #17
Weanling
Do they come in sizes?
They come in different lengths.
How do they attach?
They have a strap where they attach. Buckle goes to the outside when putting them on
Do they fit on any boot?
You can normally strech them or push them together to make them fit your boot better
Are they okay for wearing when I am grooming and stuff, or should I only put them on right before I get on?
There fine for grooming and doing almost anything else in. They will just take some getting used to
Are there different types?
There are ones with rounded ends and ones that are more squared off. They also come in different lengths. I have black ones because if they are silver in equitation they stick out and show every movement that you make.
Any specific type I should be looking at?
I would only get like 1/2-1 inch ones.
Any specific type I definitely don't want?
Western ones =] lol
How would I ride differently with spurs... would I be able to kick still?
Yes you can still kick. You just have to turn your toe in if you don't want the spur to touch the horse when your using your leg and turn your toe out a little more when you want to use the spur on the horse.
Anything else to keep in mind?
Make sure the leathers are put on correctly. You may need someone to help you with that.



As for the sitting trot, work on relaxing your legs and pushing all the bounces down into your heals. It may also help some if you work without stirrups.

Hope this helped =]
     
    01-23-2009, 09:48 AM
  #18
Weanling
Ride without stirrups and bareback for a little bit; it helps a ton to get you to know the feel of the horse's movement.

What really worked for me, is relax your hips. Your leg will come into play only when you need it. Just relax your hips and obviously keep your leg still and quiet on your horse's sides, but when your hips are relaxed, your whole leg relaxes.

Also, make sure your abdomen is very flexible and elastic; it will help to absorb the movement.
     
    01-28-2009, 05:42 PM
  #19
Started
I have these and love them ... they just give a little bit of aid:

Never Rust Humane Spurs
     
    01-28-2009, 08:25 PM
  #20
Weanling
Thanks so much for all the suggestions! Today I had much more success with the sitting trot. I talked to my instructor about the spurs and she said I don't need them until it gets warmer.
     

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